Husbands Join The Housewives Recap RHOM Reunion Part 1

Wendy (00:01.207)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.714)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.571)
We are here today with husbands watching Housewives, Scott and Jeff. Let's welcome them.

Husbands Watching Housewives (00:12.7)
Hello. Thanks for having us. This is great. Thank you. Yeah.

Kelli (00:13.016)
Welcome guys.

Wendy (00:16.017)
Yes, thanks for joining. Tell us a little bit about yourselves.

Kelli (00:16.258)
Yeah, we're very excited.

Husbands Watching Housewives (00:22.012)
Well, he's the original Housewives fan between us when we first started dating. I was like, God, Housewives guy. And, and I was like, eventually I'm going to have to watch one of these. And he, got me introduced, I think with the Atlanta, one of the Atlanta reunions. Yes. So was season 10. Yeah. And reunion, think a reunion is a good place for people to start when they haven't really housewife before, because I think it's really good to, cause I just sat down and was like, that girl's lion. that person. And you could just easily see.

mechanics going on I think sometimes that that really got me going and then you know from there living together yeah we moved in together we started watching all of them basically but funny enough not Miami we just are yeah yeah we kind of

Kelli (01:02.083)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:06.67)
was wondering, because I thought you mentioned in one of your podcasts that this is the first season you've watched Miami.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:12.606)
Correct. Yes. I watched the first two seasons like way back in the day. And then I don't know about the third. And then when it came back on Peacock, we were just like we meant to but then we're like, we're not into that. And so that became like the one we didn't watch basically. But yeah, it was kind of our thing for a while. We'll watch all the housewives but not Miami. But then this last, know, last few months, they were you're at that had that period where there's no housewives at all. We're like, we got to watch it. We got to give it a try. Yeah.

Kelli (01:24.493)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:32.247)
you

Kelli (01:39.544)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:40.446)
Basically, the idea for the show can't be just like we, you know, watch all the shows, then we would talk about it in depth, like during and after. And so we're like, we should maybe do a podcast and we thought about it. And then we went to BravoCon in 2023. And it was after the Beverly Hills panel, we were just in line at the bar talking about what we just seen on the panel. And this woman behind us said, Do you have a podcast? Because you sound like you know, like what you're talking about.

Kelli (01:54.705)
Husbands Watching Housewives (02:06.768)
And we're like, no, we're just two husbands, you know, who watch Bravo. And she's like, well, if you had a podcast, I would listen because, know, you, yeah, you sound really knowledgeable. And so we were, yeah, we'd been toying around with the idea of it and, know, just decided, okay, well, let's do it now. Let's go ahead and get some mics and give it a go. And here we are now over 200 episodes later. and then, you know, meet and find, find people like you do this as well. So it's all, it's great. I love it.

Kelli (02:09.891)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:16.929)
That's awesome.

Kelli (02:17.102)
That's so nice.

Kelli (02:33.74)
Yeah, it's a nice community.

Husbands Watching Housewives (02:35.71)
It is. is. mean, some of it we haven't met very many people, I say we were saying before we started like it, you there's some people with some really awful takes out there. So it's always nice to be able to find people that have have some similar alignment, but also different opinions about stuff. So

Kelli (02:51.82)
Right, you just, you wanna stay rational about it, but like our friend Lori who does this with us too, she's like, there's nothing rational about these women. I'm like, no, I get that. We just have to stay rational about it.

Husbands Watching Housewives (02:54.578)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (02:59.55)
Right, right.

Wendy (03:00.033)
Hehehehehe

Husbands Watching Housewives (03:04.134)
Yeah, yeah, I've seen him throw down his phone so many times after scrolling Twitter or Reddit and just I just can't I just can't I get so fired up that I'm like, why am getting so fired up? It's just a reality show. Even like doing the pod, like I'll just like just go on a rant. And afterwards, I listen to it. like, why was I so upset about what she said? It's just a reality show. Comment down.

Wendy (03:08.151)
you

Kelli (03:15.768)
Right.

Kelli (03:24.372)
yeah, I mean, I'm sure you've realized I pop off very easily about things. And Wendy's like, why you get so mad? I'm like, I know, and I don't know why. I'm probably mad at something going on in my house and taking it out on these housewives.

Wendy (03:29.579)
You

Wendy (03:34.193)
I'm

Husbands Watching Housewives (03:36.51)
Like it didn't happen to me

Wendy (03:37.057)
you

So we're going to talk about the Real Housewives of Miami reunion part one. But before we dive into that, let's talk about the reunion looks. So I have them up behind me. Scott, which one was your favorite?

Husbands Watching Housewives (03:42.27)
Right, right, right.

That's awesome.

Husbands Watching Housewives (04:00.638)
My favorite, honestly, I didn't think I would like it so much until I saw it on screen was actually Marisol's. was really like seeing the pictures of it. was like, But I really liked just kind of like the it was a little ice skatery without being too ice skatery. had the right amount of sparkle. So that's my favorite.

Wendy (04:07.819)
Okay.

Wendy (04:20.747)
How about you, Jeff?

Husbands Watching Housewives (04:22.366)
I was actually Alexia's like I don't normally like yellow, but it looked really good on her and the hair and the and the red lip and it was just a nice presentation all around. thought a little too plain for me. Just straight yellow dress. But it was very statement. It was very strong yellow like a like a sunburst. Right. If you're Andy, it was orange. Yeah. That's right.

Kelli (04:40.312)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:43.575)
Hahaha.

Kelli (04:44.226)
Yes, yes. To me, Alexia's looked extremely painful up top.

Wendy (04:47.071)
and which

Husbands Watching Housewives (04:50.398)
That happens with a lot of reunion looks like they're really squeezed in and I'm like, are the girls okay?

Wendy (04:53.696)
It does.

Kelli (04:57.64)
That's I mean, like I don't know, and I don't know if Alexia has fake boobs or not, but maybe if they're fake, it doesn't hurt so bad. I don't know, it just looked very painful.

Husbands Watching Housewives (05:09.564)
Never thought about that, if fake versus real, guess, yeah, fake would...

Kelli (05:13.858)
Like maybe they're numb, I don't know.

Wendy (05:14.263)
Yeah.

What?

Kelli (05:18.986)
If somebody could, if a listener could, could give us an insight, that'd be great.

Wendy (05:22.583)
That'd be great. Yeah. So which was yours? Which was your favorite, Kelly?

Husbands Watching Housewives (05:23.998)
trying to think if I have any friends with fake boobs, I'll ask them.

Kelli (05:27.394)
Yeah, I don't know if I have any, my favorite, I like Lisa's and I liked Kiki's.

Husbands Watching Housewives (05:33.932)
those are good. Those are good. Yes.

Kelli (05:35.468)
Yeah, mean, Kiki, like that picture, I don't think does it justice, but obviously Kiki's stunning. She really can't do any wrong with the fashion thing, but yeah, I thought she stood out.

Wendy (05:43.755)
Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (05:50.076)
And this is where Wendy comes in and says, Larsa's was her favorite, right? She's like, this is beautiful.

Wendy (05:53.143)
Oh no. No, no, no. Actually, I said Marisol's. Marisol's my favorite. And Lisa was, I gave her number two. She got my second spot because I thought hers was very nice too. But Larsa's, I heard on Anna's podcast that she looked that dress up. was $176, her dress, Larsa's dress. Yes. I don't remember where it was from.

Kelli (05:53.774)
no.

Husbands Watching Housewives (05:59.774)
nice!

Husbands Watching Housewives (06:04.306)
Yeah, that was pretty good.

Kelli (06:04.61)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (06:17.554)
Really?

Kelli (06:18.104)
Lars's, I love listening to Anda.

Husbands Watching Housewives (06:20.572)
That's surprising.

Wendy (06:22.519)
I know, but I don't know where it was from, but $176 reunion dress. was like, it showed. It looked like $176 reunion dress. Exactly.

Kelli (06:29.698)
It's-

Kelli (06:35.17)
I totally agree with that.

Wendy (06:42.304)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:42.682)
I've said it before, nobody can pull off a bodysuit like Larsa. I mean, she's got the body for a bodysuit, but not at the reunion.

Husbands Watching Housewives (06:49.702)
Right. Right. Zuzur it up a little bit.

Wendy (06:53.469)
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's get on to the reunion. The ladies arrive at 6.53 a.m. the day of the reunion. Adriana shows up with her dog, her emotional support dog, Basquiat.

Kelli (06:54.868)
Shush it off! Shush it off!

Husbands Watching Housewives (07:09.406)
huh. huh.

Kelli (07:10.37)
How funny was that when Andy was like, yeah, Adriana, I'm getting from production, the dog has to go. Meanwhile, probably nobody was in his ear and he was like, I don't want this dog on this set. Like, rid of the dog.

Husbands Watching Housewives (07:18.206)
Yeah. Someone saying no dog. That someone is me.

Wendy (07:19.131)
Yep.

Kelli (07:25.949)
Yeah, exactly. That's someone as me.

Wendy (07:26.103)
Lars is talking about she doesn't do receipts for the reunion. The only thing in her phone are photos of her feet. Okay, I believe that. I totally believe that. Exactly. Julia is crying and emotional about all the social media posts. And then they flash the social media posts. I mean, she was getting a lot of hate on social media.

Husbands Watching Housewives (07:38.398)
Well, she needs to get an OnlyFans plug in there. mean, yeah.

Kelli (07:38.764)
Wow, she's making money.

Wendy (07:55.317)
Definitely was. What are your thoughts on that?

Husbands Watching Housewives (08:00.574)
Well, we're not the biggest fans of Julia's this. Well, I'd say this season, but this is our first season. I really wanted to like her because I think when we watched the first season back when they Miami returned, I really kind of liked her. But I was really disappointed with kind of how just she went overall. And, know, from the water throwing and everything, I don't know. I think she kind of deserves not all of that stuff, but a little bit. I mean, a little bit of that. I think hate to a certain, you know, how's my fans can be a bit toxic.

and a bit overboard. So I think I don't hate anybody and no one should hate anyone. You don't know these women. You may not, you may disagree with them, but there's no need to name, call or threaten or what have you. So I wouldn't go that far. I would say I strongly dislike Julia and things that she said as well as her wife. which we get to like for a minute. We'll talk about that later. but you know, it's,

Wendy (08:37.857)
Right.

Wendy (08:52.392)
yes.

Yes.

Kelli (08:56.165)
Yes, yes we will yes

Husbands Watching Housewives (08:59.846)
Yeah, there's no need to like come at her so hard. So yeah.

Kelli (09:03.756)
No, I think we can all agree that she has not been a good friend to Adriana this season. But no, or 100, no, absolutely, absolutely, that's how it started, yeah. How about that flashback to her going crazy and throwing the chair at that one event where Anna actually was at?

Husbands Watching Housewives (09:08.126)
No. Or Grotty

Wendy (09:09.535)
No. No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (09:16.572)
Yeah, yeah. She's a friend of no one.

Husbands Watching Housewives (09:22.0)
Yeah, right. There's a history.

Wendy (09:23.381)
Yeah, there is a history.

Kelli (09:25.726)
And here's the problem, there's definitely a history, but that season, it didn't work for production to show that side of Julia, so we didn't say it. But this season, it works for production to show that side of Julia. We're watching the show they want us to see.

Husbands Watching Housewives (09:34.43)
Husbands Watching Housewives (09:39.848)
Production is really interesting.

Husbands Watching Housewives (09:44.454)
Of course. Yes, they really pick and choose what when it gets the girdy segment. It's like, you chose that. OK, interesting. That changes the narrative. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, for for Julia to show up and just be already, mean, I guess it'd be right off the bat, like in her feelings like that and just be so like already wound up. It's a little bit. I don't know. Part of me is like she's preparing things for later so she can have a defense of just, know,

Kelli (09:52.534)
Yeah, for sure.

Yep, absolutely.

Wendy (09:57.162)
It does. It absolutely

Husbands Watching Housewives (10:14.406)
sorry, things have been really, really horrible for me, where instead of actually owning up to her behavior, which she says she apologizes, but I don't know, it's very hollow to me and all that stuff.

Kelli (10:25.304)
Yeah, I agree.

Wendy (10:26.487)
I totally agree as well. Next we see Larsa brought her boyfriend, Jeff Kobe. I don't know why she feels the need to bring a boyfriend to every reunion to sit in the back and just support her, but he was there.

Kelli (10:37.068)
Now, let me just interrupt, I apologize, but he supposedly, he's a basketball, well, he is a basketball player. He's a basketball player. So my son and my husband loved the NBA. Your sons loved the NBA. So my son happened to be walking past. I said, Joe, have you ever heard of Jeff Kobe? He's like, who? I said, Jeff Kobe? I think he played for the, the only thing I could find on the internet.

Wendy (10:45.641)
Yes.

Wendy (10:52.682)
Yes.

Wendy (10:59.799)
you

Husbands Watching Housewives (10:59.902)
Mmm.

Kelli (11:04.342)
Something did say he played for the Knicks one season, but then I couldn't find anything else. I don't know if he actually played for the Knicks. I think he played in a, where is he from? Haiti. Is he from Haiti?

Wendy (11:17.976)
he's from Haiti?

Husbands Watching Housewives (11:18.024)
like in some farm league somewhere. just played in the minors. Maybe Larsa's just downplaying. She's downgrading her famous athlete status. So she's like, you know, the last one was a little too high profile. We need a little lower profile one this time.

Wendy (11:21.789)
maybe.

Kelli (11:21.814)
I believe so.

Kelli (11:30.446)
Exactly. Paparazzi aren't going to catch him doing anything illegal at a luncheonette in another country.

Husbands Watching Housewives (11:37.191)
Right, Lisa's not gonna wanna follow him, so it won't be a problem. It'll be okay.

Kelli (11:42.574)
Exactly.

Wendy (11:44.183)
Yes.

Andy kicks off the reunion with a shot of tequila for himself and the ladies, which I thought was a little odd. And he did say it's the first time they've ever done that, but I don't know if that's really the way to start it. Just saying.

Husbands Watching Housewives (11:56.71)
Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (12:03.474)
Well, Jeff was joking that after the Beverly Hills reunion where Garcel just got up and walked away, he's like, we got to do we got to do the kind of the kumbaya at the beginning of the reunion this year.

Wendy (12:10.455)
Maybe, yeah. That's a good point. A good point.

Kelli (12:14.578)
Absolutely, absolutely. But other housewives are like banned from drinking at all at reunions. Miami, they're doing shots ahead of time. They're pre-gaming. They're pre-gaming the reunion.

Husbands Watching Housewives (12:18.398)
You

Husbands Watching Housewives (12:23.153)
Yes.

Wendy (12:26.505)
Yes. Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (12:26.98)
If well, think Mary, it's probably part of Marisol's contract that if there's not a shot at the beginning in the end, she won't do it. So she's got a cocky cart off to the side. A cocky car.

Kelli (12:34.296)
Yeah

Wendy (12:38.647)
Andy asks Adriana who has a higher sex drive her or Basquiat? Because she took her dog to get that before he got fixed.

Husbands Watching Housewives (12:51.376)
Yeah, I forgot about that. Yes. I thought when he started. Like.

Kelli (12:54.168)
You know what's funny? So my daughter's favorite artist is Basquiat. And I thought he was talking about the artist. I'm like, why would he ask that? I didn't realize that was her dog's name. I'm sure I saw it in the episode, but I forgot.

Husbands Watching Housewives (13:05.926)
I thought

I thought it was the French boyfriend for a second. Yeah, I thought he was talking about the French. Yeah, he just disappeared like they made out for four episodes. And that's the last we saw of him. Where did he go? Yeah. Yeah. Got it. I forgot it. I forgot about that. That last hurrah before she had him neutered. She took him. Yeah, yeah, weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I can't remember if

Kelli (13:12.494)
you

Wendy (13:13.535)
you

Kelli (13:18.798)
He did disappear!

Wendy (13:19.025)
It was the dog. It was the dog.

Kelli (13:25.837)
So funny.

Wendy (13:30.772)
Right, right.

Kelli (13:32.654)
to the doggy brothel.

Wendy (13:34.259)
Yes, that was, yes. thought that was, I mean, I thought it was funny that he brought it up.

Husbands Watching Housewives (13:39.374)
Right. can't remember if I thought I googled if that was a serious thing that like existed in Miami, like a doggy brothel. But then, you know, you get into some really bad search results after you search dog brothel.

Kelli (13:49.518)
And now it's on your history.

Wendy (13:50.027)
Ha ha ha!

Husbands Watching Housewives (13:53.374)
Yeah, yeah. Hopefully my husband doesn't look at my search browser. I did not.

Wendy (13:53.719)
Let's see, then he brings up that Julia is coming up on her year with the boys with her and Martina and that Lisa recently rang the opening bell at Nasdaq for her new company Splitwell. I'm here for that with Lisa. I was so excited before the season started.

Kelli (14:20.334)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:22.303)
She was on two teas in a pod and she was talking about it and she was explaining it and she actually understood what it was, which I'm sorry, for Lisa, I think is amazing because honestly, prior to her talking about it, I really didn't think she was the brightest bulb, but she really knew what she was talking about.

Husbands Watching Housewives (14:32.679)
next

Kelli (14:33.294)
You

Husbands Watching Housewives (14:39.58)
Right, right. No, her apps, that app idea sounds It's very smart. Yeah. Like you'd think that there'd be something like that already, you know, and then just to see that, you're like, that's a smart thing they've created. And the name is good too. Yeah.

Wendy (14:50.687)
Yes.

Kelli (14:50.872)
The name's very good. And I think there is something, like I said, we live in Jersey and my girlfriend went through a horrible divorce and it took like three years. And there wasn't app that she was using. The judge is, it's a court app. The judge was privy to it. The attorneys, any therapists or counselors involved are privy to it. So, but the name of that was so clever. And

Husbands Watching Housewives (15:04.301)
wow.

Wendy (15:04.395)
I think that's a court app though. Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (15:18.365)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (15:19.69)
If she can get it to be used in courts and stuff like that, that would be amazing.

Husbands Watching Housewives (15:27.198)
I think what you're talking about was actually something that Drew and Ralph on Atlanta talked about when they're going through their divorce about like, and with the judge and the therapist, and now they're all on sort of app to communicate and, you know, saying what they couldn't couldn't do and whatnot. So that's interesting. Yeah, very. No, I was kind of rolling my eyes at the whole idea of like, I rang the bell on the NASDAQ and I rang the bell on the NYSE. And I just like, that's like such a symbolic thing these days. But like,

Wendy (15:36.672)
Yes.

Wendy (15:44.171)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:44.194)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (15:54.584)
It's not like trade, I guess trading does begin with the gavel, but it's not like back in the 80s and 90s when it was all hell and mayhem once that happened. it's just a weird thing that both of them had that opportunity. It was just something that I don't think about on a regular basis. So it was interesting.

Wendy (16:03.627)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:08.586)
Right, right. I think my sister's actually done that. I think my sister's done that. She works in the finance industry in Manhattan. And isn't that terrible? She probably told us and we were like, that's really cool. Come on, that's like a big deal.

Wendy (16:08.819)
Right. Yeah, I agree. Has she? that's interesting.

Husbands Watching Housewives (16:12.859)
yeah?

Husbands Watching Housewives (16:18.417)
Wendy (16:23.207)
Yeah, Gertie did it too, right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (16:23.294)
But now we know Gertie and Lisa did it. And Carrie Bradshaw.

Kelli (16:32.28)
excited that Gertie and Lisa did it though.

Husbands Watching Housewives (16:34.238)
Yes. Priorities. And sisters.

Wendy (16:34.305)
There you go.

Kelli (16:37.838)
priorities. They know who I am.

Wendy (16:41.599)
There you go. We find out that Alexia, her divorce is final now and as of the taping of the reunion, she has no contact with Todd. But I mean, after the reunion, everyone saw the video that Todd put out. Like, what are your thoughts on that?

Husbands Watching Housewives (17:05.106)
Which video is Yeah, I don't think I saw the video.

Kelli (17:06.54)
Wait, the one he's talking about, suing Bravo?

Wendy (17:09.335)
So he put out a video. Yes. Do you guys didn't see it? you have to see it. Okay, yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (17:12.446)
no. No. This is breaking news for us.

Kelli (17:18.294)
Yeah, so that was after the reunion film.

Wendy (17:23.389)
After it filmed, Before it aired, after it filmed, he put out a video, like a 10 minute long video, and Todd is known for his videos, about the truth of really what happened with him and Alexia, and that he did not leave Frankie alone, like she made it sound like, and that Frankie's father is very involved in Frankie's life, which we've never heard, and that he's been there for Frankie, and he fought to get Peter and Frankie compensated

Husbands Watching Housewives (17:23.548)
OK. OK. Wow.

Wendy (17:52.391)
on the show and really a little bit more about what really was happening and that he is.

Husbands Watching Housewives (17:57.662)
Hmm.

Kelli (17:58.593)
If you go to his Instagram, you can watch it still.

Wendy (18:01.395)
Yes. Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (18:01.616)
Okay, all right. I just kind of stay away from all things Todd, because just honestly, I'm just so tired of hearing about him. And so like even in this episode where she's like, we're have no contact. like, but by the time the new season starts, are you going to be talking about him again? Is he going to be back in your life? You're to be having nooners with him? Like I just, you know, so over it. Do you believe the Todd video? Or what are your thoughts on that?

Kelli (18:20.126)
Exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (18:27.273)
I believe the Todd video. I actually think Todd has more credibility than she does, to be quite honest with you. Because I think with her, it's all about her staying relevant on Miami. she's not giving up that mojito. Even though she said she would, even though she said she would, she's not giving up that mojito. She's not.

Husbands Watching Housewives (18:32.37)
Hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (18:44.727)
No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (18:50.002)
No, no.

Kelli (18:50.838)
And what he said on the video is right. So he wasn't shown in a very good light last season. I mean, it was his actions and production does what they do. He not only left Alexia and they're separated, but he wants nothing to do with the show. However, Alexia's whole storyline this season was him.

Husbands Watching Housewives (19:15.646)
that's not Bravo's fault that's Alexia's fault. Yeah, yeah, she just kept making it all about him and you know, would have have enjoyed more about her separate from him. But you know, we don't always get that. Well, the thing was

Kelli (19:18.104)
That's Alexia, for sure.

Kelli (19:26.915)
Yeah.

I did think the part about their father was very interesting, that how involved he is in their lives, but you don't ever hear that.

Wendy (19:38.569)
Never, not once. She's never once, right, no, from her. She's never once said anything about Frankie and Peter's father on the show in a positive, you know, ever.

Kelli (19:40.354)
From her. From her.

Husbands Watching Housewives (19:41.512)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (19:50.77)
Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anything out of her mouth about anyone other than Todd. You really so you know and and the other husband who died. Right, right, right, right. You guys know all the names.

Wendy (19:55.435)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:57.167)
Herman. Yeah, Herman, yeah.

Wendy (19:58.647)
Herman. Yeah. And she does finally admit. Yeah.

Kelli (20:04.792)
So Wendy and I have literally both been watching How's Wives since OC for season 2006.

Husbands Watching Housewives (20:11.87)
like nonce. Did you ever take a break where there's some seasons you were like, nope.

Wendy (20:13.227)
Yeah. No, nope, nope. You gave up on Atlanta and you never watched Dubai.

Kelli (20:17.364)
I have, I didn't watch Atlanta for a few seasons. I took a break from Atlanta. I never watched Dubai. No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (20:20.691)
Hello.

Husbands Watching Housewives (20:26.461)
you're okay. Dubai was good, though. mean, it was, you know, was. Yeah, it was good.

Wendy (20:28.823)
I liked Dubai. I liked Dubai.

Kelli (20:30.924)
Yeah. So that's what happened with us. We would go during COVID, we walked every night with our other friend, Lori, and we drank wine. I mean, really, we went to, did work, we worked, but come five o'clock, it was walking, talking about how his wife's drinking wine was our life. And that's where we, Lori used to make fun of us. She was like, my God, you act like they're your friends. We're like, well, we kind of feel like they are. Except Teresa, she and I are not friends.

Wendy (20:41.558)
as we did.

Right.

Wendy (20:48.567)
That was it.

Wendy (20:56.587)
We're vested.

Husbands Watching Housewives (20:56.848)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, you're not in a good place. No. I mean, so I mean, if we.

Kelli (21:01.39)
Never happened. But no, we are not in a good place. So then that's how we started saying, oh, we're gonna do a podcast.

Wendy (21:07.095)
you

Husbands Watching Housewives (21:12.638)
So if I can derail the conversation, mean, if picking up that you're not very happy on Teresa, does that mean you're team Melissa necessarily or is that?

Kelli (21:21.23)
100%, I always have been since she, well, I will say this, because I always do say this. I do think the christening was Joe Gorgas' fault.

Husbands Watching Housewives (21:30.942)
Oh yeah, I see that. 100%. You started it.

Kelli (21:33.57)
However, everything that took place after that, 100 % Teresa's fault and Kim Day, and I think that they were fine. And I've said this before, they were totally fine. And then Louie entered and he F that all up, 100%.

Husbands Watching Housewives (21:48.514)
yes. Disrupted at all. Yeah. Louis really, really screwed up Jersey and many levels. Yeah. So many levels. And that's why.

Kelli (21:56.755)
many, many, many levels, many, many, many levels. He is, and listen, it's out there. Like his sisters knew where her shore house was or wherever. I don't know if she still has that shore house and what the hell's her, what the hell town is it? Whatever, right outside of LBI. She was right outside of LBI. But his sisters knew where she was gonna be and they told him and he went there and he stalked her and he

Wendy (21:57.046)
Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (21:59.728)
He's just so creepy. Ugh.

Wendy (22:11.223)
She doesn't.

Husbands Watching Housewives (22:23.527)
Hmm.

Kelli (22:26.434)
Hunt it or damn.

Husbands Watching Housewives (22:27.742)
Yeah, dude wants to be famous.

Kelli (22:30.688)
Woo, at all expenses.

Husbands Watching Housewives (22:34.288)
I was to make a joke about him being red, the lighting on me right now has me a little bit too red faced. I have no room to talk.

Wendy (22:34.465)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:37.902)
Now, you're fine. You are totally fine.

Wendy (22:38.007)
you

I can never make a joke about being red because every time I drink wine I get red.

Wendy (23:03.511)
Well, that is why we are We Wine Whenever, because whenever we talk about housewives, we drink wine. Exactly. Alexia did finally admit that the narcissist party was about Todd.

Kelli (23:03.585)
Excellent

Husbands Watching Housewives (23:10.974)
It's only appropriate. Right. Hand in hand.

Kelli (23:11.395)
Yes.

Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (23:23.75)
I swear she said that at the time, that she said something along the lines of like, they were like, we're gonna forget about Todd and like, da da da. And I just swear she mentioned it, but I could be imagining it, I don't know.

Kelli (23:23.822)
took her long enough.

Kelli (23:34.19)
No, she definitely did. And then she did a 180 and was like, this is about you girls.

Husbands Watching Housewives (23:40.208)
Yeah, yeah, sure. This narc party, which I still don't know that they knew what that really meant. A narc party red flag. Yeah.

Wendy (23:40.993)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:45.931)
They don't. They really don't.

Kelli (23:45.964)
I don't even do this!

Kelli (23:51.564)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (23:53.889)
So then the first thing Andy brings up is one of the things that the viewers really reacted to was the lack of reaction to the water toss. And then Alexia jumps in and says, well, looking back and rewatching this, like, I should have said something. The way that Julia disrespected Gertie was not OK. It was not all right. We have said this, and I will continue to say this. There was not enough reaction. Gertie was done wrong.

and they did not stand by her. And I think that even when Andy brings it up in this reunion, I still don't think it gets the respect that it deserves. And I still don't think they hear Gertie.

Kelli (24:33.75)
No, because they all start talking about when it's happened to them. Like, season this, it happened to me, you threw a glass at me, and you know, they all made it about themselves.

Wendy (24:38.217)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (24:38.546)
Right. Right.

It's like, what about ism? Yeah, yeah. And just still didn't even acknowledge the fact that like, yeah, this most recent time it happened to you, and it was awful and it shouldn't have. And they none of them wanted to take any ownership for the fact that they, you know, really rushed out and were just like they didn't. They were just appalled that it was happening. And I'm so worked up. I think they I think the whole couch was just very irked and annoyed that they had to talk about it.

Wendy (25:05.75)
It's okay.

Kelli (25:07.896)
Yeah, I'm here.

Husbands Watching Housewives (25:12.71)
and they were very defensive and very quick to want to want to shut it down. But what's crazy is that when you see the lot, the unseen footage, they did reprimand Julia at the time, which I think I don't understand why Bravo didn't show that because it changes the narrative a lot, you know? So it's just really weird. only thing I can think of is that it was kind of acknowledging that

they the fourth wall, I was acknowledging they were on a show when they were having that conversation. But the way they choose so willy nilly these days when to acknowledge they're on a show and not so why not add a little bit more to that. also it's like they just stay still. Even if they did say something to her, they still all sat with her. And she was allowed to stay and they continued on in a very awkward I'm sure moment when they Marisol could have said, you know, this is my engaged. No.

Kelli (25:49.997)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (26:06.972)
wedding party, whatever, whatever it was. I think you should go Julia. You're obviously really emotional. You know, it's just, it's not a good time and not a good look, but instead they're like, let's just have her stay. And then it just went on from there. So I don't know. It just, it was very messy. Even with the unseen footage, it's, still very messy. And I don't think the people on that couch, the non Gertie couch care about Gertie. And I think they're a highly annoyed about the situation and

Yeah, that was my thought.

Kelli (26:38.094)
They're definitely annoyed about it. They were clearly trying to ice her out. mean, the response to her putting those texts up compared to the response of the water toss. mean, the difference was like, are you kidding me? And they were probably thinking about all the backlash on social, the rightful backlash on social media, having Gertie's back. Like, yeah, that was bullshit.

Husbands Watching Housewives (26:43.708)
Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (26:55.804)
And that's

Wendy (26:55.892)
It was crazy.

Husbands Watching Housewives (27:07.29)
Absolutely. And that's where I was getting a little heated just now is that when the text reveal party, they get all worked up and like, that's just things you shouldn't do to your friends. And they all leave the party to console Julia instead of going back and reading the text and seeing, like to them, those texts could have told us who killed JFK and the world's top secrets. And they wouldn't read them because they were too long and they felt that it was betraying a secret. It's just so ridiculous. Ridiculous.

Kelli (27:26.638)
Exactly!

Kelli (27:32.546)
Yeah. Ridiculous.

Wendy (27:35.283)
It was ridiculous. And then even when Andy asks if she's going to accept Alexia's apology, there was never an apology. And that's what Gertie said. Like there was not an apology. How can you accept? And then she went on to say,

Husbands Watching Housewives (27:44.254)
Correct.

Kelli (27:49.497)
This was the first time I got annoyed with Andy during this reunion. This was the first time, because there were more. He just wants to move on, move on, move on. Like if you don't have time to do these reunions, then get somebody else to do it, because you can't just rush through that.

Wendy (27:55.765)
Yeah. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (27:58.579)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (28:02.608)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (28:06.325)
And that's what he did. And I'm glad that Gertie said, you know, what, what apology? There wasn't an apology. And I'm glad that she wouldn't, wouldn't agree to say, yeah, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna let this go because it, shouldn't be let go. It shouldn't.

Husbands Watching Housewives (28:12.989)
Yeah, great.

Husbands Watching Housewives (28:20.382)
Yeah, I feel something about Gertie's response like, well, I agree with her playing it the way she did. It's still it's not connecting. I think the way that she was hoping it would because she just seemed like she was, you know, her whole thing saying, I'm just here to listen more than I'm going to speak. You know, then she didn't. And then she didn't own, especially in the next segment when she just kept interrupt. Well, Adriana was trying to help her. And she's like, no, no, no, let me and then in comparison.

Julia was very docile and what do I need to do? Gertie? What do I have to do to get you to forgive me? And, know, Gertie just seemed like more hyped up. And I think maybe Julia did that by design of like, I'm just going to sit here and be the nice one. And I've apologized five times and you know, yes, patronizing, patronizing. Yeah.

Kelli (29:06.85)
Yes.

Yes, exactly. And playing like the damsel in distress. Like I don't buy it with any of these ladies, not a damn one of them is the damsel in distress.

Wendy (29:11.86)
I agree with you on that.

Husbands Watching Housewives (29:19.692)
No.

Not with that wet hair.

Kelli (29:24.514)
That's what is with the wet hair. Listen, we saw her at the, at the virtual reality awards. We saw her in New York city, but like two weeks ago, same hair. I'm like, what is she doing?

Wendy (29:24.971)
Ha ha ha!

Husbands Watching Housewives (29:27.74)
Yeah

Husbands Watching Housewives (29:34.942)
I don't know. just it's dry the hair. Dry the hair. Just dry it.

Kelli (29:39.33)
I mean, it was better than that one confessional look where she had the two squiggy lines coming down. She looked like Squiggy from Happy Days.

Husbands Watching Housewives (29:42.686)
Yeah.

Maybe she, maybe her blow dryer broke.

Wendy (29:49.167)
What I don't understand. She's got a team. She's got a team that's doing this to her. It's not even like she's doing it herself. Like.

Kelli (29:55.663)
We're exactly we're starting to get convinced that these girls glam teams are like, you know what?

Husbands Watching Housewives (29:57.234)
Her team doesn't like her.

Husbands Watching Housewives (30:06.846)
Yeah, one smokey eye. That's you need. That's all you need is one smokey eye. It's the new thing. Everyone's doing it. Juju had to eat it. my God. One smokey eye.

Kelli (30:07.423)
no, it looks great, you look great, like Lisa Barlow in that one smokey hoodie.

Kelli (30:17.902)
She would totally follow along too. She'd be like, yeah? All right.

Wendy (30:19.009)
Hahaha!

Husbands Watching Housewives (30:23.262)
Juju Hadid? Oh, I love that.

Kelli (30:26.446)
Can I say I know her if I do this? Because then I'm in.

Husbands Watching Housewives (30:29.79)
We spent a lot of time together. We're Blake and Ben.

Wendy (30:30.817)
Hahaha!

Wendy (30:36.182)
my God, that's so funny.

Kelli (30:37.624)
Ugh.

Husbands Watching Housewives (30:37.96)
Right.

Wendy (30:40.119)
Uh, what's next? So Kiki, then Kiki jumps in and she said, you know, at the event, you know, we were good. And then all of a sudden I hear that there's a problem and I'm being called a racist. So I don't know how this got thrown into the reunion at this part. Like,

Husbands Watching Housewives (31:01.985)
yeah, I feel like

Wendy (31:02.151)
Andy jumps in and tries to explain like what's going on. On social media, anytime Kiki was tagged in the post, they were saying that she was racist because of the way that she was trying to remove her from the situation, saying that she looked like an angry black woman.

Kelli (31:19.072)
because the way she was trying to get Gertie out of that situation, she was acting as if Gertie were the problem and Gertie was being aggressive, which anybody watching that would see that that was not the case.

Husbands Watching Housewives (31:19.838)
Right, right.

Wendy (31:26.439)
Right. Right.

Wendy (31:35.433)
Right, mean, that's not how I saw it.

Husbands Watching Housewives (31:35.538)
Yeah, yeah, Gurgi.

Gertie was not going to retaliate physically. She's wanted to have a, you know, they are, they were fighting, but she was not going to put her hands on Julia and the way that Kiki was trying to pull her away as if she was trying to break up a fight and there was no fight. Gertie sat there very calmly wet after having water thrown on her when she could have reacted so many other ways. So, and so many other housewives, i.e. Alexia, Marisol, Larsa would have had a much different reaction than Gertie.

Kelli (31:57.346)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:00.994)
I would've.

Husbands Watching Housewives (32:08.7)
So Julia, Julia would not be walking this earth if she had done that to Alexia. Plain and simple. Yeah.

Kelli (32:09.315)
Absolutely.

Kelli (32:15.182)
Absolutely. And if you're gonna try to remove anybody from the situation, remove Julia. She's the one that just got physical. With your friend.

Wendy (32:16.883)
Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (32:21.854)
Yeah, exactly. Like you should. Right friend. Yeah, worker. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I forgot about that. That was interesting. like Kiki's racist was like as random as like Adriana's racist comment. Like during the finale party of like, they're gonna say I'm racist. I'm like, where did this come from? No one's saying you're racist.

Kelli (32:27.438)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:28.287)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:30.381)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (32:48.565)
We felt the same way. We didn't see it.

Kelli (32:48.738)
I totally agree with you. Yeah, like unless they're gonna clarify something and show us that something at the reunion that we haven't seen before, which will be super annoying, we have not seen anything indicating that, would you say Kiki called her a racist, that Kiki insinuated that Adriana was racist.

Husbands Watching Housewives (33:06.802)
Right. right. that the or that social media was saying that Kiki was racist. Yeah. So they might say like, you're not supporting your fellow black woman in this position. But I don't think that's that that's not racist. That's just yeah. Yeah. Anyhow. I was looking for some reason to yell more, right?

Kelli (33:14.413)
Right.

Wendy (33:23.51)
Right.

I don't know. When it gets, I know. And when it gets like that for the audience, honestly, it's very confusing. It's like, what are you doing? Why is this what the focus is? Because this isn't what it was about. It wasn't about that.

Kelli (33:26.584)
Took a weird turn.

No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (33:42.141)
Right.

Kelli (33:42.658)
And I'll be honest with you, at this point, I'm still trying to figure out how the hell Stephanie got in the first seat next to Andy. We haven't even talked about her yet, and the first episode's almost over. We haven't even talked to her or about her yet.

Wendy (33:49.163)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (33:50.726)
Yeah...

Wendy (33:55.009)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (33:57.085)
Well, I mean, in her in her defense, I mean, she spent the first four episodes talking about how rich she was and kind of giving the intro like, Hi, I'm new on the scene. She wasn't even in the first two episodes, I don't think she wasn't. Yeah. So I think chronologically, we got to give her a little bit more time. But yeah, I don't think she still deserves first chair. I don't think after all her stuff. Listen.

Kelli (34:07.488)
No, she wasn't. You're right.

Wendy (34:15.465)
I think Masoud bought it. He bought her the first seat. He upgraded her. He upgraded her to the presidential seat, the presidential suite and the first seat.

Kelli (34:15.79)
I think you're so boring.

Kelli (34:23.576)
He did upgrade her.

Husbands Watching Housewives (34:25.918)
That's right.

Kelli (34:29.283)
And in all honesty, don't think Alexia deserved the first C either. Like I know she's the OJ, but why? Because she's getting divorced? I don't know why she was there. It should have been Julia and Gertie.

Husbands Watching Housewives (34:35.548)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (34:42.056)
They, yeah. But then Julie would have been in the first seat. Right.

Wendy (34:46.283)
Ha ha ha ha ha.

Kelli (34:46.38)
Yeah, well that's true. And they probably didn't want to do that because of all the backlash on social media she's been getting. Although they put Tamra there every time, so...

Husbands Watching Housewives (34:51.078)
Yeah, that's a point. Yeah.

Wendy (34:53.943)
Hahaha

You know who else was always there? Teresa.

Kelli (35:00.856)
I know! I know!

Husbands Watching Housewives (35:00.926)
Yeah. Teresa was only not first seat like that first season. That's the only other time she was not first seat.

Kelli (35:09.836)
I think you're absolutely right. Because second season she was when she literally physically pushed Andy down. And then after that, Melissa came on and then it was all about Teresa and Melissa. So you're right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (35:11.934)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:12.225)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (35:17.769)
Mm-hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (35:22.514)
Yeah. Interesting. I don't think we'll have that problem anymore.

Kelli (35:24.782)
Wow.

Just another trivia, just another question to add to our trivia game that we're gonna write one day. Wendy and I are gonna write a Housewives trivia game.

Husbands Watching Housewives (35:36.25)
We would love it. We will have it all the time.

Wendy (35:36.349)
Yeah. So then Lisa says, well, we want to hear like what Julia has to say. So Andy asks Julia, like, what made you throw the water that night? And Julia, you know, she starts, well, you know, I understand like watching the footage to Adriana, like brings you back to this horrible place, you know, that was out of my character. It was slightly enhanced because of alcohol.

Which I will say she was, she was drunk, but that is no excuse. That's just no excuse. know, nothing I did was planned or rehearsed. Well, I agree that that specific moment wasn't planned or rehearsed, but I will say what you said at the end of this episode was 100 % planned and rehearsed. Do you agree?

Husbands Watching Housewives (36:09.245)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (36:29.788)
Yeah, for sure. For sure. She workshopped that. Yeah, yeah, she was she was the cat. She had the canary in her mouth the whole time and just waiting to open up and just let that thing out. So she was working on it. Yeah. Yeah. I think the one true thing that she did say during that that first bit was basically that she she saw an opportunity to impress Alexia and Marisol. And that's why she threw the water is she wanted to be reactive. She wanted to like

Wendy (36:33.458)
Yeah!

Kelli (36:33.666)
Her big bombshell that she dropped?

Kelli (36:42.894)
Absolutely. Yep.

Wendy (36:44.62)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (36:58.546)
get them to, you know, pity, not pity her, but like, take her side. And that's, that's what got her thrown the water. She wanted her moment. And I think that's also what pissed her off is that Gertie called her out. You just wanted a moment, you know, you said you've had it now. And now what, you know, and then it backfired. And especially when Gertie remained as calm as she did and didn't react the way that Julia wanted, it didn't work out for her. because of Gertie had reacted the way that Julia wanted, it would have been all about Gertie, then she would

Kelli (37:13.708)
And now you look like a big jackass. Yeah.

Wendy (37:17.142)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (37:28.392)
for sure be the angry black woman who attacked Julia and yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (37:31.042)
You got it.

Kelli (37:34.658)
You got it.

Wendy (37:34.891)
Yeah, that's it, that's 100 % it. Then Marisol brings up the fact that she did take her to the bathroom and then we see that footage where she tried to talk to Julie and said that she didn't, that this, don't do that, this is not acceptable.

Kelli (37:38.691)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:50.106)
yeah.

Wendy (37:56.853)
And then they just keep bringing back up again all the other times, all throughout this reunion, they're bringing it back up all the other times that this has happened with the ice bucket. And Marisol starts yelling at Gertie, you weren't there with the ice bucket when Julia threw it at me. And Gertie said, show the footage. And they show the footage and Gertie immediately got up, grabbed the ice bucket out of her hand, like she was there for her.

And Marisol's still standing on this platform like, no, you didn't stand up for me. Why should I stand up for you? It's just ridiculous.

Husbands Watching Housewives (38:34.557)
Thing is like that.

Kelli (38:34.712)
But that's what I mean, they made it all about themselves. Like they just, like, about when this one did this to me and what about when this one did this to me? Okay, well, but the behavior was wrong then and the behavior is wrong now. So how about we try to stop the cycle and make someone accountable for their actions?

Wendy (38:37.899)
They did.

Husbands Watching Housewives (38:50.718)
because they can't see that. Like that conversation was going nowhere. It was just going around in circles and like pointing fingers like the Spider-Man meme of like who did what wrong. And and it was just, you know, and they were never going to get you in because they were trying to ice Gertie out and they were trying to, you know, make her feel separate from from everyone else. They they were doing the whole it's just hazing of sorts like what happened to us. So it happened to you. It's not a big deal. It's like, well, you know, maybe it shouldn't be happening to people.

Kelli (38:59.148)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (39:00.18)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (39:20.476)
That shouldn't be a rite of passage on The Housewives necessarily. As much fun as it can be to watch, but you know, at least let it be a napkin, not a glass of water.

Kelli (39:24.546)
Yeah, and I-

Kelli (39:29.164)
Right, right. I mean, and I don't know how you guys felt about Dr. Nicole, but we love Dr. Nicole. And I think that that's, I think she was one of the classiest, know, successful, just a good housewife. I pers, yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (39:43.977)
Well, we saw her. Yeah, like there she's I mean, we don't know. We don't really know much about her, but I like that one scene when she went to lunch with Gertie. And from what I've heard about her, she sounds like everyone talks so highly of her and was so sad when she didn't come back this season, but understood why she didn't. So.

Kelli (39:53.95)
because you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (39:58.511)
She was great. Yeah. so she said that one of the friends, I believe it to be Marisol, basically hired a private investigator to follow her and her partner around to get dirt on them to use for the next season. mean, who, first of all, she sold her house to Jeff Bezos' mother. So she clearly doesn't need the money. Like who would put themselves in that position?

Husbands Watching Housewives (40:21.79)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (40:27.618)
But that's, so when you said hazing, you're absolutely right. They were not nice to Dr. Nicole when she came on the show because Alexia and Marisol, and I don't care how much money they have, they were very intimidated by her. They were jealous of her, I thought.

Husbands Watching Housewives (40:42.842)
Yeah, I think the difference was Stephanie. Sorry. was great. The difference was Stephanie because she seems to have theoretically as much money as Dr. Nicole. She was a bit at least under control because she was Lars's friend. So there wasn't as much of a threat. So Alexia and even though they have their shoes, Alexia Marisol with Stephanie, at the end of the day, they you know, they can keep her like, calm, in a sense.

Wendy (40:43.873)
So,

No, no, no, go ahead.

Kelli (40:59.288)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:09.356)
Yeah. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (41:10.248)
Whereas Nicole was, from what I hear, wasn't having it. I think that when you have a housewife who's going to like try to challenge the status quo and the OGs, they get really threatened by it. So.

Kelli (41:19.8)
Yes.

She definitely challenged Alexia. Dr. Nicole definitely challenged Alexia. And I was here for every second of it. Yeah. For sure. For sure.

Husbands Watching Housewives (41:27.578)
needs that. That's thing too. It's like if you realize if you really believe in like what's good for the show, you want to have different points of view to make it interesting. You have to like remove yourself I think from I don't like this girl to like but everyone a lot of people do like her. She has fans. It's a different point of view. It adds drama to the show. Like this isn't best friend show. It's housewives. So so like they try to it seems to me watching Miami and how they operate.

Kelli (41:37.762)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:51.468)
Right. Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (41:56.935)
off camera, they try to play casting director and ice people out and get people in. And it's like, just sit back and be a housewife. You know, don't produce, don't cast. Yeah.

Kelli (42:06.22)
Yeah, and know your role. Marisol acts off camera, I think, when she does these podcasts and stuff. Marisol acts like she actually has something to do with the casting.

Husbands Watching Housewives (42:17.822)
Yes. Right.

Wendy (42:19.113)
Well, I will say this. She is a friend of, but after the big bombshell that came at the end about the Hamptons trip, I went back and I rewatched that episode. I watched the couple episodes from season four and that was Dr. Nicole's first season. And in the Hamptons, Marisol really started, and I forgot, you know, cause I hadn't seen it in a while. Marisol really started in on Dr. Nicole saying that I heard that you did this. I heard that you did that.

Kelli (42:19.596)
And she's a friend of.

Wendy (42:47.977)
And really it comes down to is that Marisol is very close with production. Marisol is the one who moves the storyline along. Anna has said it, many people have said it, who have worked on the show. Marisol and production are very tight. And Marisol did not want Dr. Nicole there because like you said, she was threatened by her. She's successful, she's independent, and she's articulate. And she...

Husbands Watching Housewives (42:54.142)
Mmm.

Wendy (43:16.479)
She did whatever she had to do and she immediately went after her. I mean, at the Hamptons house, she said to her, let's play a game. Who at this table do you trust the least? And nobody wanted to answer. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Marisol said that, yeah, you have to rewatch it. It's season four and you'll see, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's season four and.

Husbands Watching Housewives (43:27.392)
is that where that comes from? Okay, I've heard about that. Okay. We to rewatch that. We should, yeah.

Kelli (43:29.228)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Husbands Watching Housewives (43:37.96)
or watch it, I guess.

Wendy (43:43.735)
she just starts out by stirring the pot and trying to paint Dr. Nicole in a bad light. And Dr. Nicole comes back with, well, know, Alexia said the only reason you got married to Steve is so that you were relevant. And Alexia is like, I didn't say that to you. And she's like, now she's trying to come between me and Marisol and we've been friends for 20 years, you know, and then of course, and then she has Alexia going after Dr. Nicole because she stood up for

Kelli (43:50.381)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:13.813)
herself. So you'll see them.

Kelli (44:15.436)
Yep. And Larsa gets in on it too. Larsa, is it that season or the other season Larsa says, I heard you slept with the whole hospital or something.

Wendy (44:23.829)
Yeah, Larsa does. She said that. Yeah, she did. Yeah.

Kelli (44:26.222)
That's a lot of people. That's a lot of ground to cover, know? Doctors, nurses, female, male. That's a lot of people.

Husbands Watching Housewives (44:27.482)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:30.773)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:36.087)
Yep.

Husbands Watching Housewives (44:38.098)
You know, all the franchises have the similar problem where they're always trying to take down another housewife or another. And I know that's part of the drama for some people. I just would prefer if every time they just made themselves more interesting. Like don't distract from the fact that you don't have anything going on other than the same old shit over and over and over again. Just get something new so we can focus on what makes you a good housewife.

Kelli (44:43.821)
Yes.

Kelli (44:52.451)
Yes!

Wendy (44:52.48)
Yes!

Husbands Watching Housewives (45:03.27)
and not what makes this other person necessarily an allegedly bad housewife or boring or whatever. It's like, like bring something to the conversation. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (45:08.781)
Right!

Totally agree. And listen, Wendy and I have said it a million times, that's what Housewives was when it first started. It was just successful, affluent women who were raising their families, some working, some not, some married, some not, but they were just women with wealth and we got to see their lives. Like Gina Keough was married to an ex-ball player raising three kids in Cotto, DeCasa, and

Husbands Watching Housewives (45:34.226)
Right.

Kelli (45:41.839)
opened up her whole home to us. Meanwhile, her husband was an alcoholic their whole marriage and you got to learn that. But she was such a good housewife, Gina. That's what we like to see. I swear, I think Tamara's the one who started this whole coming after the other housewives, but maybe I shouldn't put all the blame on her.

Husbands Watching Housewives (45:57.01)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (46:10.903)
you

Kelli (46:12.246)
I just remember, did you go to Bass Lake? Like to me, that changed the whole game in Housewives. And we're still, look it, we're still talking about it.

Husbands Watching Housewives (46:21.032)
I didn't watch. Yes, I didn't watch OC when we first started watching. He was like, was like, why don't we watch the OC? And he was like, he's like, I can't tell any of them apart. They all look exactly the same. I don't like anybody on that show. So we didn't start watching until Tamara came back. And the only reason is because we listened to two teas. And when she's on her podcast, she seems very reasonable. But then when she gets on the show, she gets into on screen Tamra mode and it just gets a little

Wendy (46:33.207)
You

Kelli (46:33.816)
That's true.

Kelli (46:39.064)
Okay.

Husbands Watching Housewives (46:50.364)
wackadoo if you ask me. But yeah, we still defend.

Wendy (46:52.949)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:55.424)
It's funny you say that because Wendy and I, think we agree on this. Tamra came on season three, guns blazing. And by the time they got rid of her, I think it was time for her to take a break. I was not a fan of Tamra. By the time they got rid of her, I was happy to see her go. However, then I started listening to two tees in a pot and I'm like, my God, this is like a different Tamra. I'm really enjoying her. Then they put her back on the show and I'm like, yep.

Wendy (46:58.955)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (47:20.914)
Right. She's likable.

Kelli (47:25.046)
Same old camera. Same old camera.

Husbands Watching Housewives (47:26.238)
Yeah, they're just those lights must come on and she just must just something happens in her brain and off it goes. So, you know. Yeah.

Kelli (47:33.536)
I think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. No, she thinks she's doing her job. So you can't, you gotta give her credit for being a good employee.

Husbands Watching Housewives (47:43.612)
Yes. She ties.

Kelli (47:45.74)
She gets employee of the year.

Wendy (47:48.055)
So basically the Julia and Gertie storyline is that Gertie is not going to accept the apology and she's not putting a bandaid on it and I'm glad that she's not. I'm glad that she's not gonna. I'm glad that she's not.

Husbands Watching Housewives (47:53.299)
Sorry.

Kelli (48:03.938)
for

Husbands Watching Housewives (48:04.092)
Agreed. Yeah, a lot. A lot of these apologies for the sake of apologizing. get that they need to move on. But sometimes you can just tell it's like this is going be brought up again 20 more times. Like I'd rather just sit with it and go through it than have to pretend we're over it just for it to come back three weeks from now. And we got to, you know, go through it all over again. So or just say we'll try again at some point. We're not in the place to forgive. But you know, we're open to trying again. That's honest. Yeah.

Kelli (48:24.174)
Yeah.

Wendy (48:32.169)
Right. Yeah, exactly. So then we move on to Stephanie and Andy starts out with Stephanie flaunting her wealth. That was really the big storyline. The viewer said Stephanie is plain focused emphasis on the plane. Yeah. And Stephanie's response is, I thought it was very odd. She's like, well, you know, like a football player when he wins the Superbowl,

Kelli (48:32.194)
Yeah. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (48:48.478)
I like a good pun.

Kelli (48:49.752)
That was good.

Wendy (49:00.543)
Like he wears his rings because he's proud of what he's done and I'm proud of what I've done. What? What?

Kelli (49:07.576)
think we should all agree that housewives should never use analogies because they are unsuccessful every time, every time.

Husbands Watching Housewives (49:12.548)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (49:17.298)
Yeah, agreed. It's the Jackie Accord.

Kelli (49:21.911)
Yeah, it just, never lands.

Wendy (49:24.533)
Yeah, that Jackie one was bad.

Husbands Watching Housewives (49:25.17)
No, no, no.

Kelli (49:27.704)
But this one wasn't great either.

Husbands Watching Housewives (49:30.16)
No, no. But I mean, I feel as though like they obviously brought her on the show and said, you know, we need to give you a very digestible personality for the first few episodes. Like we need to give you a persona to follow. And I think she's kind of being screwed by production in a sense that like they definitely amped up her wealth, told her to talk about it. I think that she could have instead of choosing that analogy, she could have said something, you know, much more diplomatic of like, look, you know, I was new, I was nervous.

Kelli (49:50.838)
yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (49:59.229)
I just talked about my wealth a lot, but I enjoy my life. have a great life and I want to express that on the show and you know, yada yada yada and my business, but it gets a little tacky after.

Wendy (49:59.702)
Right.

Kelli (50:03.822)
That's right.

Kelli (50:10.264)
You know, I don't know if you guys remember this, but do you remember when Dana Wilkie was on Beverly Hills that one season as Taylor Armstrong's friend?

Husbands Watching Housewives (50:17.598)
$25,000. I didn't watch.

Wendy (50:19.017)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (50:22.082)
And she got so much heat for that. And then Andy brought her out on the reunion. And it was like a very honest moment. She was like, listen, I was very excited to be around you women. And I knew how much you had. And I wanted to fit in. Like it was such an honest moment. Like if you didn't like her before, you had no choice but to like her after that. So I agree. I think if Stephanie kind of came in and was like, listen, I was happy to be here.

Husbands Watching Housewives (50:41.555)
Mm-hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (50:46.033)
Right.

Kelli (50:51.882)
and I was a little nervous. It would have maybe landed a little bit better, but I like her. Yes, exactly, I got carried away. I think she's coming back. I don't think there's a question, she's coming back.

Husbands Watching Housewives (50:55.198)
Yeah.

I got carried away. Yeah.

Wendy (51:02.463)
No, I like her too.

Husbands Watching Housewives (51:05.394)
I think so too, yes, yes.

Wendy (51:07.519)
I like her. She said what she did learn from watching the show is that her tone comes across as harsh and that she attributes that to the fact that she works in a predominantly male field and that she can't be soft spoken and quiet, but she also learned that she can treat friends as transactional. And I think that that's good insight for her. think that she's excited for her sisters to actually

watch the show because they will see that it's not just them that don't like her, her friends don't like her either because of the way she is. Like at least they'll you know see that this is just who she is. It's not because of you know...

Husbands Watching Housewives (51:43.006)
Yeah, yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (51:51.08)
Right, she's not being personal to them. It's just, this is how she is, yeah.

Wendy (51:55.26)
Right. It's just her personality. So we'll see how that goes. I mean, I

Kelli (51:58.477)
Now, did you guys catch when Stephanie was talking about, you know, having to be powerful in a male-dominated industry and Gertie was agreeing with her and basically said, like, I feel the same way. Did you catch like Alexia and Marisol's reactions to that? Like they thought it was ridiculous that Gertie was like, I guess, you know, including herself in that.

Husbands Watching Housewives (51:58.694)
I love it or like it.

Husbands Watching Housewives (52:15.783)
No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (52:19.966)
Oh, Marisol did have a weird Julia to had a weird you know. Yeah, yeah, yes. Yes. But that was also the moment when when Gertie was over on the other couch is like kind of interjecting every uh huh. She was she was she was a manning her. Yeah, it was like not your segment anymore. Gertie. Yeah, let's Stephanie have her time.

Kelli (52:24.118)
Maybe it was Marisol and Julia, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. And you know, again.

Kelli (52:34.179)
Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Wendy (52:37.066)
Yeah.

I know.

I know, I don't like when they do that. I really don't.

Husbands Watching Housewives (52:45.51)
Yeah, like silently agree. A head nod, a head nod.

Wendy (52:48.755)
Yes, just nod, just nod, yes.

Kelli (52:49.068)
Yes, yeah, just nod, just nod.

Wendy (52:54.039)
Then a viewer asks that they don't believe that she met Massoud at a basketball game, that she was hired by the ex-wife as an assistant. So she goes on to explain that she's never met Massoud's ex-wife, that that is not true, that he was actually separated for eight years. And she said this on podcasts, like this is something she's been saying throughout the season before she even met him. And then Adriana jumps in and says,

until we were out to lunch and then you saw her and she's like, yes, but I didn't meet her. So they were at a restaurant and she saw Masood's ex wife and she's like, I don't want her to see me. And even when she said that, I read online that people were still criticizing her saying, she should have, how would she know if she saw, of course she's going to know what she looks like. I mean, are you that stupid? Right. And why would she go up to her? She's never met her before. Why would she like, they thought she should have went out. I'm like, no, why would you do that?

Husbands Watching Housewives (53:44.06)
Right. What she looks like. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (53:44.546)
Yeah, right, Right.

Wendy (53:53.973)
Like, I don't think anything that she did about that whole situation was wrong. And I believe her. I believe that she's never met.

Husbands Watching Housewives (53:59.991)
I hadn't heard that rumor that she worked for the ex-wife, so that was all new to me. But if she said she didn't, then she didn't. And I'm astounded how many times there's just some little story some fan concocts somewhere out of circumstantial at best information that like turned, it takes on a life of its own. And it's just like, how is this taking on so much? It's so weird. But yeah, no, I totally believe her. She has no reason to lie.

Wendy (54:05.835)
What? Yeah.

Kelli (54:17.527)
Yes.

Kelli (54:28.28)
She doesn't have any reason to lie and his children, I'm sure, grown and maybe he had a very contentious divorce. Like I mentioned before, my girlfriend who went through a three year divorce, like she can't wait until her youngest is 18. So it's like, out. Good luck in the future. Maybe that's the kind of divorce he had where it was like, our kids are grown. Like I'll see you at their weddings when their kids are born.

Husbands Watching Housewives (54:45.638)
Yeah, double that man. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (54:57.698)
when they have birthday parties, but we don't need to speak anymore. So why would she have to have a relationship with his ex-wife?

Husbands Watching Housewives (55:04.358)
And then on top of that, does his ex wife really want to see his new wife? Like, thanks for coming up to me at a restaurant. The highlight of my day, you know, No highlights.

Wendy (55:11.485)
Right, right, yeah. No, I know. So then Stephanie says the biggest surprise she took away from the season is how much I love every single girl here. I didn't really think I was gonna love them. And I thought that was sincere also, I think because she was open that she didn't have friends before.

Kelli (55:11.553)
exactly. Yeah.

Kelli (55:17.39)
you

Husbands Watching Housewives (55:32.169)
That's true. It felt a little ass kissy to me though, to the other couch. It felt a little too much like, Alexia and Marisol and I are besties now. And as much as they went back and forth with her, I like that she still calls them out, you know, it seems, but I just felt there was a little too kiss-assy on that side of the couch. But you're right. I forgot that she was very open about like, I don't really have friends, so it's nice to, you know, be part of a group and not necessarily be talking about my career all the time, you know, that sort of thing, which seemed to be.

Wendy (55:46.07)
Mm-hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (56:01.736)
primary focus of hers.

Wendy (56:03.809)
Yeah.

Kelli (56:04.758)
I think we're getting to a point with Miami where the newcomers think they have to kiss the ring of Alexia, like on Jersey, where people for a long time there thought they had to kiss Teresa's ring. I think that's where we're headed with Miami and it's not good.

Husbands Watching Housewives (56:13.949)
Mm-hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (56:17.512)
Correct.

Husbands Watching Housewives (56:21.552)
No, I agree. And what's weird is that I don't think Alexia has the same. mean, while she's they call her the Teresa clone, I don't think she has even half the personality Teresa had. And that's saying a lot like at least Teresa. Right, right.

Kelli (56:32.404)
nor the fan support. I mean, we've never seen fan support like Teresa has had. So there's no, you know, she does not have that.

Husbands Watching Housewives (56:39.036)
Right.

Yeah, so I'm just always confounded as to why everyone thinks Alexia walks on water like that. I'm just like, I don't understand it, so...

Kelli (56:49.25)
Yeah, how about when Lisa excused herself from the table with Larsa when they were at lunch and goes in the bathroom and calls Alexia and says, she said that you guys don't like me. It's like, why are you calling Alexia?

Husbands Watching Housewives (56:57.278)
That's not valid to the conversation you're having with Larsa. Yeah.

Kelli (57:01.954)
Yeah, what is going on?

Wendy (57:08.417)
So next, Andy moves on to Lisa. Everyone knows Lisa lives in Lisa land. Have you listened to what Jodi said about controlling the chaos in your life? And she's like, yeah, I have a therapist now. And that's been very helpful. Like, didn't realize that, like, I don't want everyone waiting on me. I didn't realize that I had such a problem with, calculating my time properly. And I had mentioned to Kelly a couple episodes ago, she had said on a podcast that she's actually hired, like, a coach.

to help her be on time more. Because she, you know, it was a problem and she wants to address it. And I think, listen, I think that's growth, you know? I think she is trying. I think she is trying. And she also said, you know, compared to three years ago, you know, when she was first separated, like she's a totally different person. And I 100 % agree with that. When that whole thing went down with Lenny,

She was a mess because she wasn't used to being on her own. She just was a mess. And now she is.

Kelli (58:11.544)
She reminds me of a little girl, Lisa. She just reminds me of a little girl, right?

Wendy (58:14.761)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (58:14.907)
I could see that. Yeah.

Wendy (58:20.051)
I think that she has learned. Right.

Kelli (58:20.6)
Like no bad intentions. Like if she's late, she's late because she's late. Like she's not like...

Husbands Watching Housewives (58:21.17)
to a doll.

Husbands Watching Housewives (58:27.102)
She's not calculating. It just seems like this is who I am and better for worse. I can see that.

Wendy (58:27.167)
Right.

Kelli (58:30.583)
Right.

Wendy (58:33.471)
Right. That's it. That's a very good way to put it. She's not calculating and she does not have bad intentions. There's not malice in her like some of these housewives. And the fact that it's been brought to her attention and she's working on it and she's trying to do better, think that speaks a lot for who she is. Andy asked her about co-

Kelli (58:34.862)
Yeah.

Kelli (58:43.734)
No. No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (58:56.862)
Now I'm wondering how I get a job with a time management coach. Like, that's crazy. It seems oddly specific. I am sure just a life coach, but you know it. if you could have an accountability coach. That's just crazy.

Wendy (59:00.083)
I know, right?

Wendy (59:08.951)
Very true. It's probably the same coach.

Kelli (59:12.014)
Are you on time for things? Is this something you want to look into?

Husbands Watching Housewives (59:15.038)
Oh, I'm actually on time. I'm pretty good on time. hate being late.

Wendy (59:15.115)
Hahaha!

Kelli (59:19.458)
Yeah, good. I don't like being late either. I get like anxiety. I don't like to throw that word around.

Husbands Watching Housewives (59:23.036)
I feel bad. Yeah, no, I'm a nail biter. And you can tell when I've been late. It's by the lack of fingernails that I have the lower they are, the more late I've been lately. can't physically now I got to make sure I'm on time.

Kelli (59:31.63)
Yeah

Wendy (59:38.313)
All right, Jodi said, Lisa says co-parenting is not going well with Lenny. And we kind of move on from that. The next thing Andy brings up is Martina recently posted on Twitter, surrogacy is just wrong. Sometimes you can't have it all. And he asks Lisa what her thoughts are on that because both of her children were born via surrogate. And I think it's interesting that he did that because obviously his children were born via surrogate as well.

and he couldn't put it coming from him. So he had Lisa there to ask that question.

Kelli (01:00:13.166)
I'm sorry, this was the second time I got annoyed with Andy because he should have made it, he should have said, right?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:00:17.98)
Yeah. He's, yeah, it was a really quick, just like, you know, I don't agree with Markina. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Moving on. And then, and also like he's, he's gotten, think, because of whatever it was the whole, you know, lawsuit or whatever the, the Leah, what's her face from New York stuff. Thank you. Yeah. He's gotten so like, well, that's an HR problem. So he gets really, really diplomatic in the largest air quotes you can imagine about like not wanting to be confrontational.

Wendy (01:00:19.657)
I agree. I 100 % agree.

Kelli (01:00:23.17)
Yeah, it was way too quick.

Kelli (01:00:36.236)
McSweeney.

Wendy (01:00:36.747)
Sweeney. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:00:47.954)
because he's, you I, you know, I'm in a position of power, so I can't really have an opinion about this. And it's like, no, I mean, I think where it's important, have the opinion about it. mean, this is very, very important to him and his, you his life and, know, and many other housewives have used have had a surrogate. So, you know, it's just very offensive. And for just Julie to say, like, I disagree. And okay. Well, thank you for saying that, Julie. mean, it's yeah.

Kelli (01:00:48.301)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:00:53.89)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:01:07.374)
Absolutely.

Kelli (01:01:15.074)
Yep. Totally brushed over it. Totally brushed over it.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:01:17.83)
And then to it all on Lisa to have either to make it an issue or not was kind of not right of him either. mean, think he could have whatever she said at least chimed in and said, you know, hey, I think it's screwed up too. But maybe it's already obvious. I mean, maybe there's hours of Radio Andy where he's talked about it and he doesn't feel like he needs to go on the record anymore. But I don't know.

Wendy (01:01:17.963)
Yeah, he's

Kelli (01:01:37.974)
I do think he brought it up at Watch What Happens Live with Julia. I do think that they discussed it on Watch What Happens Live. But I don't know if he made it personal about himself. I just felt like he should have had a personal opinion on it.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:01:42.62)
Yeah. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:01:49.714)
Agreed.

Wendy (01:01:50.209)
Yeah, I totally agree. And then he moves on to Julia. We saw that you asked Derek to be the boy's godfather. Did you and Martina ask anyone to be the godmother? And she's like, well, not yet. And then he said, well, did you guys consider Adriana? And she's like, no, she was not considered.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:02:09.438)
But I'm sorry, Adriana, you'd be the godmother of Basquiat. Please do not. Do not.

Wendy (01:02:15.793)
That was hysterical. That was so funny.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:02:18.974)
Yeah. We have two cats and we're always like, oh, you're a good little cat dad. No, we are cat owners. We have two pets. They're not our children. They're not this. We get the people love their animals and we love ours, but we don't need a godparent for our animals. We do not.

Wendy (01:02:26.655)
Ha

Wendy (01:02:36.971)
my gosh, I am so glad to hear you say that because some of these pet owners are crazy. And Kelly and I are not, we are not pet owners. We say we have children and that's enough. We have children. like, I'm sorry, that's enough. We are not pet owners. So we don't get it. We do not get it. Cause like I said, right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:02:39.71)
you

Kelli (01:02:40.282)
No.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:02:42.833)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:02:45.688)
We're not pet owners.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:02:47.408)
Okay. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, like we love our cats, but like there's a limit. Yeah.

Kelli (01:02:50.2)
So much more than enough.

Kelli (01:02:56.878)
And I'll tell you what, I would love a pet. I hear people talk about their vet bills. I'm like, $3,000 because your cat needs insulin. Like, my God. I could never.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:03:02.233)
Hahaha

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we just came off the tail end of one of those bills. So our cat passed recently. yeah, we Yeah, it's sad. But but we're good. We're in a good place now. Yeah. But yeah, and also what show was it where she's dying her damn dog was Atlanta, where she was like, Kelly dying. Yeah. Yeah, we won't get kidnapped.

Wendy (01:03:09.43)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:03:14.018)
Woo. I'm sorry.

Kelli (01:03:23.168)
You

Wendy (01:03:29.076)
yes.

Kelli (01:03:30.558)
Kelly, gas. So he's easily identifiable.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:03:37.67)
Yes. that's what it is. But yeah, so but hey.

Wendy (01:03:39.531)
That's craziness.

Kelli (01:03:41.823)
Not only is he pink, he has fake lashes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:03:44.542)
That dog is miserable.

Kelli (01:03:48.75)
He's not gonna get kidnapped, he's gonna, God forbid, walk the wrong way, because he can't see through the lashes and get,

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:03:53.16)
Yes.

Wendy (01:03:54.871)
you

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:03:57.257)
God. But yeah, no Adriana as godmother of those children. was like a dagger to the heart.

Wendy (01:04:03.198)
No.

Kelli (01:04:05.221)
oof oof

Wendy (01:04:07.681)
So Andy brings up the first time we met Julia and Adriana were in 2021 when they got friend engaged, which also happens in the Hamptons, by the way, in season four. Yes. Yes, they got.

Kelli (01:04:17.996)
Yes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:04:18.686)
We gotta watch that because I saw that I was like, wait, what who? When they showed the clip I had to shield my face. was like, it was just, that was the most cringe worthy moment and I can't, I cannot imagine watching it when it happened the first time. Oh my God. It's like worse than Nini. Yeah.

Kelli (01:04:22.658)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:04:27.853)
RINGY

Wendy (01:04:29.366)
Yes.

Kelli (01:04:33.472)
You should watch that episode because Julia gets very, very ill and she's hung over, but she will not admit it. She won't admit it. And the night before is supposedly when the first intimate encounter happened.

Wendy (01:04:38.455)
She's hungover.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:04:38.494)
Ow.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:04:43.116)
Wendy (01:04:52.277)
Yes, yes. So Adriana brings up that she was upset that Alexia saw the boys before she did.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:04:55.174)
Okay.

Wendy (01:05:04.733)
Andy seems that Julia's close friendship with Marisol and Alexia is what catapulted the demise of her friendship with Adriana. I mean, I don't really think that that's the case. I know that that's what Adriana is saying is because she got close to them. I think it's just Julia's behavior in general. Like the fact that she wasn't there for her and that she didn't get to see the boys first.

and

Kelli (01:05:34.958)
But don't you think that's a result of her getting closer with Alexia Marisol? Don't you think that off camera, in between seasons, Alexia Marisol probably reached out to Julia and were like, listen, we'd love to get together. And just started kind of pulling her in and pulling her in.

Wendy (01:05:50.069)
I mean, it could be if she.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:05:53.298)
Call her in. And she's like, the popular girls like me now.

Wendy (01:05:55.543)
It could be that.

Kelli (01:05:57.375)
Exactly. She's got the pick me energy. Yeah.

Wendy (01:06:03.555)
It definitely could be that.

Kelli (01:06:04.172)
very Heather of Salt Lake City with Lisa Barlow. know? Like, my God.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:06:07.206)
No. right. We're gonna need a whole other hour if we're to start talking about that.

Wendy (01:06:08.188)
God, yes.

Kelli (01:06:13.582)
Lisa was popular in high school and she's actually talking to me right now.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:06:17.63)
Do not understand all of Salt Lake's obsession with being like besties with Lisa or Jen shot or whatever the case. don't get it. OK.

Kelli (01:06:27.414)
Yeah. Yeah.

Crazy.

Wendy (01:06:32.673)
So what do you think about the bombshell? So then Julia drops the bombshell that, you know, that her and Adriana slept together in the Hamptons. And do you think it's true?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:06:46.782)
So I had it ruined for me because I was an idiot who was scrolling on his phone a moment before in a commercial break and I was like, damn it. So I did not have it, but he he clasped. I gasped. Yeah. Big gay gasp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I didn't see that coming at all. So kudos to her for that was a good bomb drop. I don't know if I believe it because I don't believe.

Wendy (01:07:05.079)
Bye.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:07:15.356)
much that comes out of Julia's mouth. I couldn't tell by Adriana's reaction if I should believe it if she was I don't know. don't know. The only reason I believe it is from scenes from next week or clips that I've seen since Adriana is speaking very candidly and I think she says something like that's not what started this and then it could be magical editing where we're led to believe she's talking about some sort of intimate encounter but I tend to believe that it happened but I don't know that it maybe happened to the degree that Julia is making it out to be like

maybe they made out a little bit maybe a little bit of this or that but like Julia really is over hyping it I think that's my gut instinct on that. Yeah. Do you believe it?

Wendy (01:07:55.575)
My thought is if it happened in 2021, why is it all of a sudden a problem now in, well, when they were filming this in 2024 and now 2025? Like, what's changed? Like, what's changed?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:08:10.174)
That's a good point. Yeah. Why? Yeah, why all of sudden? Like now it's a problem.

Wendy (01:08:15.647)
So if that did happen, right, if that did happen, what does that change? Because she's saying like, what you don't know is that we slept together. Okay, so you slept together. What does that have to do with what is going on right now between you two? What does that have to do with it?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:08:30.578)
Right. Cause it seems like, it seems like we slept together one time, not that we've been having an ongoing affair. So how is it relevant? Yeah.

Wendy (01:08:37.481)
Right, but she does say in the up, right. Right. How is it relevant? Like what does it have to do with what's going on right now? I just think it's deflection. Whether she slept with her or she didn't sleep with her, who cares? What does it have to do with what's going on right now?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:08:51.912)
I mean, unless she's going to spin some sort of jealousy narrative in the next episode that, know, you know, I didn't give any, I didn't spend more attention on you. And I started giving it to other people and you liked it when I, you know, flirted with you and gave you attention. And you know, that's the only thing I could think that might make it relevant, but you're right. You're absolutely right. It isn't relevant. I hadn't thought about that until now. That's a really good point. That just means it's going be a let down.

Kelli (01:09:13.752)
So I told Wendy, I told Wendy last week my third eye was open. I thought that that was what Julia was gonna say. I really thought that that's what she was gonna say. I don't know if I believe it though.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:09:23.967)
Wendy (01:09:24.577)
She did.

Wendy (01:09:30.935)
Mm-hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:09:31.528)
I thought it was gonna be something to do with like the boys or something. didn't. Yeah, I did not see this coming. I think it she definitely got a moment from it, you know, so maybe this is at they want a moment for themselves at the reunions. They're like ass back. So maybe that was her like boom. Look, bring me back season seven.

Kelli (01:09:43.138)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (01:09:52.591)
That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. So now production will be like, well, you now we know this about them. So we have to see how they interact next season.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:10:02.462)
see it play out.

Kelli (01:10:06.156)
Yeah, especially with Martina because, and Wendy and I have said this before, we really think Martina likes being on this show. We think Martina's really enjoying her spousal role in Miami. So I think, go ahead.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:10:21.02)
Yeah, I would agree with that. never seems to be like... Other spouses seem to be like either begrudging 100 % or they love the spotlight. She seems to just like be very casually there and just really at ease with being on camera. Whereas if she didn't like it, it would show for sure. Yeah.

Kelli (01:10:38.978)
Yeah. And she would go along with whatever tale Julia's spinning.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:10:45.572)
So then would they go to will we see them in couples therapy next season? I hope not.

Kelli (01:10:53.39)
That would be interesting. Part of me does believe it though, because I think Julia is a very flirty person. I have no idea what goes on in their marriage, but I do believe the Captain Sandy story from that cruise. I do believe that she was trying to get Gertie not to come to wherever she was coming because she was going to try to.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:11:08.542)
Mmm.

Wendy (01:11:14.154)
It was the Captain Sandy dinner.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:11:16.51)
so she'd want a witness there.

Kelli (01:11:20.206)
Yeah, so part of me does kind of believe that maybe she did have something with Adriana. mean, Adriana is a very flirty person too. Not that that means you would sleep with a married woman, but I'm just saying, it could happen.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:11:30.908)
Right. Maybe that's what Gertie Gertie and Adriana were talking about. The details don't matter anymore. Maybe they all three of them know something about the Captain Sandy table. Because, like Adriana was like, you've got to talk about the cruise and Courtney was like, no, it doesn't matter. And but Adriana was really adamant of like, come on, talk about the cruise. I'll back you up.

Kelli (01:11:40.716)
Right, right.

Kelli (01:11:52.367)
So don't you think that that, because at some point Adriana hands Julia a box, something in that box could have something to do with Captain Sandy.

Wendy (01:11:52.406)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:12:03.39)
I don't know why this is so dumb in my head. I always just think there's a dead animal in it the way the the reaction is when she looks at it. That's a very ornate box. Yeah. Like a dried squirrel or something. That's I don't know. It seems like something bad. Yeah, like something bad in the box. Interesting, though. Well, I mean, I guess they did their job. We want to know what happens in the next episode. And now

Wendy (01:12:03.511)
could.

Kelli (01:12:14.72)
It was a very pretty box.

Wendy (01:12:21.463)
Mmm.

Kelli (01:12:22.227)
that's so funny. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (01:12:27.063)
I guess so.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:12:31.858)
they have a reason to have three reunion episodes out of a season that probably didn't need them. it's good. It's good to for

Kelli (01:12:36.962)
Right.

Yeah. Aren't you surprised they dropped this in the first episode and didn't make us wait?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:12:44.103)
Yes.

Wendy (01:12:44.265)
Not if there's bigger stuff coming. I think that there's bigger stuff coming.

Kelli (01:12:47.928)
That's true. That's true.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:12:48.936)
That's true. But again, that's what also makes me, yeah, the next episode could very well be like, did that really happen? And she's like, well, no. And then they just quickly move on from this and make a nothing burger out of it. And so it's like, I hope that's not the case. I hope there's some meat to this and there's some more discussion and it's not just some throw away accusation or, know.

Kelli (01:12:58.851)
Mm.

Kelli (01:13:04.845)
Yes.

Kelli (01:13:09.73)
Yeah, Adriana's denying it and Julia saying it's true. Like, we need more than that. Like, and why wouldn't, if she was gonna do this, why didn't she bring Martina on? Like, let's get Martina involved in this.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:13:13.736)
Right. Yeah. And then Andy.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:13:23.166)
Well, someone had to stay home with the boys.

Wendy (01:13:23.285)
God, Martina,

Kelli (01:13:26.56)
she's home with the boys. By the way, what are your thoughts on this? People are like up in arms about the fact that they changed the boys names. Do you find?

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:13:36.444)
Which is something I also hadn't heard about until it got mentioned in relation on the, on the reunion.

Wendy (01:13:41.59)
the reunion.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:13:45.767)
It's a little, yeah, I white savory. Is that what you're trying to say? It does seem a little like we're to the rescue and we're going to, you know, erase your previous life. It's kind of, you know, how it can be seen. Right. And we're going to tell that to you and not let you be who you've been, you know, so I kind of want to know what their names were before this then.

Kelli (01:13:57.291)
Right, right, right, right. And this is who you're gonna be going forward now.

Kelli (01:14:10.254)
For sure, for sure.

Wendy (01:14:10.837)
I know, but I don't think she said it was for security reasons. She said it was for security reasons, but that's bullshit. think that's bullshit. I mean,

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:14:12.03)
Oh, do you think there was something? Oh, OK. OK.

Kelli (01:14:20.056)
Well, if it's a closed adoption though, right? If it's a closed adoption and you don't want anybody ever coming to find them, I mean, Martina's got a pretty famous last name, so if you know the boy's first name, you can figure it out.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:14:23.653)
okay.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:14:30.75)
Hmm.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:14:36.262)
Yeah. I mean, if it is truly just quote unquote a stage name, you know, for the sake of the show, fine. But if they're but they legally change them and that seems really, odd. Because they're they're like, not little babies. They've been known as the names for quite some time. Yeah, yeah. Little it's it's little suss. yeah. So that's the one thing I want to know more.

Kelli (01:14:45.816)
think they did. Yeah.

Kelli (01:14:51.66)
Right, no. I mean, one's like three.

Wendy (01:14:51.711)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (01:14:56.214)
Right.

Kelli (01:15:00.44)
Yeah. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:15:05.182)
because I don't like Julia, but I do want to know about the whole thing with her daughters and, you know, the fallout and like why they're so upset and because she really kind of just dance around it like, oh, these, you know, we have a falling out. like, let's get more into that. Why were they so upset about this adoption? And yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (01:15:21.838)
Totally agree. We need more on that.

Wendy (01:15:25.303)
That's the other thing that comes out in season four that I totally forgot about. So Julia mentions that she had lost a baby, so she has three children with three different fathers that she never married. So her two daughters have...

Kelli (01:15:37.453)
really? There's- I didn't realize that.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:15:39.23)
There's a third? I thought it was just... Oh, she's lost. Okay.

Wendy (01:15:41.067)
that she lost. She lost the baby. She lost, she had a baby that she lost because of the nanny. But all three of her children had different fathers, none of which she married. I mean.

Kelli (01:15:41.294)
Wow. She lost.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:15:46.83)
Okay.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:15:54.398)
interesting.

Kelli (01:15:55.222)
I didn't realize that. I thought the two girls, the two older girls now had the same death.

Wendy (01:15:58.615)
She mentioned it on season four. was like, oh, I forgot that.

Kelli (01:16:04.899)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:16:04.946)
Huh. There's so much about Julia like below the surface. So much going on.

Kelli (01:16:09.58)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (01:16:09.777)
Yes, well, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. think that there's more. mean, listen, she's a beautiful woman. She obviously was a model. And, you know, I think that, you know, maybe there's some sort of trauma that came from her childhood over in Russia with I don't know. You know, I think that you're right. I think there's a lot about Julia we don't know.

Kelli (01:16:18.424)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:16:30.64)
Anger issues, trauma makes sense too.

Wendy (01:16:32.169)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:16:33.794)
Yeah, for sure.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:16:36.766)
And not that I'm saying it would be nice for her to share some of that, but you know, again, getting to know her more, you know, at some level or another would be very interesting as opposed to, you know, mudslinging. It'll be real. Yeah. Yeah. Your real reality.

Wendy (01:16:36.983)
All right, well, we've.

Wendy (01:16:42.806)
Right.

Kelli (01:16:49.378)
Yes, yes, yes, right. Because we say this all the time, like, we don't treat our friends like this. Like, this is, I'm not digging dirt up on Wendy from when she was 19 years old. This is not how women behave in friend groups, typically.

Wendy (01:16:49.705)
Yes, yes. Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:16:57.758)
We ask ourselves.

Wendy (01:16:58.357)
Yeah.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:17:03.6)
Hahaha

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:17:07.614)
Yeah, I we ask ourselves that all the time. Like, do you have any friend in the world who would react like that or do this or do that? I RPI? Yeah. Who has the time? Maybe just come with money.

Wendy (01:17:07.958)
No.

Kelli (01:17:16.554)
Yes, exactly. And I'm sorry, you're from New Jersey, you do not hire private investigators to look into anybody. You just smile and wave and let them go on their business, go about their business.

Wendy (01:17:19.231)
Or the money.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:17:27.71)
, And that's our other thing is like, there's so many times on these shows where people it's like, what's it matter to you what this person did or did not do? And it's like, okay, so she, Adriana and Julianas, Julia slept together, who cares? Like at the end of the day, fine. Like, what's it matter that that happened? And so like, until you can bring it back around and give us a reason why we should really care other than like, okay, hot gossip.

Kelli (01:17:46.638)
Right.

Wendy (01:17:46.913)
Right.

Kelli (01:17:49.07)
Yikes.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:17:57.318)
you know, then don't. So.

Kelli (01:17:57.933)
Right. The only thing is, unless Adriana was like, listen, Julia, if you're really gonna be friends with Alexia and Marisol now, you're really gonna do this and go down that road, I'll let it out that you and I had an affair while you were married to Martina. Unless that's what happened. But it doesn't seem like that's what happened.

Wendy (01:17:57.942)
Right.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:18:17.168)
No, it seems like there's something else that at the finale party that a dry like kind of threatened like I could I will take this to the grave, but I could say it. And so there's something beyond this sleeping together thing that she has on a on Julia, which I hope she drops it.

Wendy (01:18:37.995)
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (01:18:38.04)
Hopefully next, yeah, next episode.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:18:40.094)
Yeah. Well, we definitely went over your target of an hour. It's supposed be 45 minutes. I I've been watching Kelly the whole time wondering, she getting Nancy over there? Like it's well over 45 minutes.

Wendy (01:18:41.687)
So we're gonna have to wrap this up. Yes, yes we did.

Kelli (01:18:45.132)
I know, I know.

Kelli (01:18:53.55)
I knew it was going to go longer with four of us.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:18:58.426)
Yeah, no, this has been wonderful. This is great. So much fun.

Kelli (01:19:02.072)
Yeah, this was a lot of fun. We'll definitely do this again.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:19:05.182)
Please. Thanks so much.

Wendy (01:19:07.511)
All right, so I'm gonna thank everyone for watching and listening to We Wine Whenever. And thank you for joining us, husbands watching Housewives. Please subscribe, give us five star reviews and check out our brother podcast. Bye.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:19:21.692)
Yeah. Thank you.

Kelli (01:19:25.07)
All right, bye. I'm gonna press stop, but don't hang up yet.

Husbands Watching Housewives (01:19:26.511)
Bye. Bye. Okay.