Erika SNAPS + Dorit Storms Off | RHOBH Recap

Wendy (00:00.942)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.508)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.687)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.874)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, episode number 16, The Last Supper. It was a good title.

Lori (00:19.961)
Yes, very fitting.

Kelli (00:20.166)
Yeah, yes it was. And timely.

Wendy (00:23.535)
yes, very timely. Yeah.

Lori (00:26.18)
Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (00:26.532)
Right? Interesting. Yeah.

Wendy (00:32.502)
We pick up where we left off with Kyle at the table yelling at Dorie to stop riding my effing ass all the time. And...

Then Dorie starts in on Bose and says, I don't know why you're telling Kyle these things about my finances. And you know, we see a little bit more of that conversation now at this supper that we did not see before. That paints it a lot differently than they wanted us to think before.

Lori (00:59.79)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:04.988)
Well, what's interesting is that Bo says again, she believes that Kyle's concerned about Dorit, but I kind of feel like she's just saying that to cover her ass. Like I only said it to her because I think she's genuinely concerned about you.

Lori (01:05.018)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (01:21.786)
Oh, oh, oh, that's why you think she was saying, I got you, I got you.

Kelli (01:24.122)
Yeah, I think Bo's hands are dirty here too. Dorit's not seeing it, but...

Wendy (01:28.534)
Right. Right.

Lori (01:28.558)
Well, no, but I think the situation is, these women, not both, but these other women have been working together for a long time. you know, maybe, you know, maybe Dory, maybe, Kyle and Moe, maybe they got PK out of the divorce. Maybe that's their, you know what mean? So then maybe the whole dynamic between, you know, Kyle and...

Dury changed and Dury thought it was something else and blah, blah. And they're just people who are tired of working with each other. They're tired of it. And I think Dury can be a lot.

Kelli (02:07.164)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:08.686)
Dory does a lot. I agree with that. I definitely agree with that. But I was glad that we saw more of that.

Kelli (02:12.944)
And I think that their finances, their finances have always been in question, PK Dorit. We never really knew what PK did to make money. So that's nothing new.

Lori (02:18.148)
Right.

Wendy (02:18.51)
100%.

Lori (02:21.506)
Right. No.

Wendy (02:23.82)
Right, right. And Boze is the one that brought up that, you know, her name was on everything. And yet she's also the one who was telling people that she doesn't know how much money she has. But yet she's out spending all this money buying expensive bags. Like, you know, come on. Right. I mean, like, they're legitimate concerns, right?

Lori (02:34.358)
Right. Right. When she says she doesn't know what money she has. Right. Right. Right.

Lori (02:43.674)
Well, and two, you know, it's a legitimate thing. She has said it herself, that PK has just all of a stopped paying for things. So maybe that money that you're spending, that yeah, it would be nice to go blow a couple thousand on something, even if you do have it, but maybe you shouldn't because maybe he can do that at any time again.

Wendy (03:07.628)
Which he did, because we find out that she now has to sell the house. Because they're behind again.

Lori (03:12.698)
Right. So that's what I'm saying. But I think, yeah, at the end of the day, they're just people. Yeah. They're just tired of working with each other, I think. You got to remember, it's a work relationship.

Kelli (03:13.882)
Right, right.

Wendy (03:16.3)
Right. Yeah, no, was, first of all, was glad we saw more conversation. Yeah.

Wendy (03:26.658)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:32.572)
Yeah, they are co-workers. That is facts. Yeah.

Lori (03:35.022)
Your coworkers, right.

Wendy (03:40.194)
I mean, Bose does apologize to Dorit and said, you know, if I, you know, said something, you know, that was, if I broke your confidence, I'm sorry. And Dorit said, well, I really appreciate that. And then Kyle's like, yeah, of course you do. Like, and I understand why Kyle's frustrated with the whole situation. I get it. I get it.

Lori (03:56.42)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:56.73)
Yes, because Boze was just as guilty in that moment for what she was doing and she apologized. Now I don't know if Kyle has actually apologized to Dorit for talking about her, but I feel like she has.

Wendy (04:11.2)
I feel like she has a million times. Yeah.

Lori (04:11.798)
Yes, think million times, yeah.

Kelli (04:13.624)
Yeah, so for her to be like, it's okay, honey, like to Bose, it's like, okay, now, you know. I do think Kyle's coming in a little hard at Dorit, but that's unfair.

Lori (04:25.026)
And I think in the end, even some of that dynamic is some of the dynamic that really influenced Erica's behavior later on, is because she's looking at this, it's going on, and she's like, really?

Kelli (04:35.068)
Hmm.

Wendy (04:41.806)
Well, I think, I mean, as far as Erica's concerned, like, I really think that Erica really was genuinely friends with both of them. I do think the three of them were very good friends. And, you know, I think that the straw that broke the camel's back with Erica was when Dorit said, you know, Boz, you just came into this group and you have been more supportive of me than these women combined. Now that...

Lori (05:05.274)
yeah, I know that was the main stressor, definitely the main stressor. But I'm just saying in general, Dorit's kind of behavior, there's a reason why Erika freaked out so bad. Yes, because of that, but also because you're late, you're doing all these double standards with other people and you're not really taking in any information that we're trying to give you.

Kelli (05:05.564)
That was a very unfair statement.

Wendy (05:08.62)
Yeah!

Kelli (05:10.074)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (05:29.133)
Right.

Kelli (05:35.708)
I was completely distracted by Kyle's lipstick in this scene. I... I can't...

Wendy (05:36.993)
And then.

Wendy (05:40.377)
my gosh, you and lipstick.

Lori (05:40.378)
I didn't notice a lipstick. I'm gonna have to look now.

Kelli (05:45.978)
Her lipstick, I was so distracted by it, the whole scene. I'm like, it was so good. I have to figure out what it is.

Lori (05:48.666)
It was good or bad? Oh, it was good. Okay. All right. All right.

Wendy (05:54.466)
You didn't find it out yet?

Kelli (05:56.228)
No, but I looked and I couldn't find it. I can find her confessional looks, but that dinner lipstick I couldn't find. But I have some leads.

Lori (06:04.25)
All right. We're going to have to message Kathy Elton and ask her. She can find out. There you go.

Wendy (06:04.802)
Hmm. Okay.

Kelli (06:09.052)
good idea. Yes, I'm going to. Cathy Hill, yeah. Whoever answers Cathy's DMs.

Wendy (06:13.57)
You mean Cathy Hilton's assistant.

Lori (06:15.448)
Yes, Kathy Hilton's assistant. Absolutely. I don't care who it is. As long as Kelly gets the answer. Yeah, whoever, as long as Kelly gets her answer, I don't care who it is.

Wendy (06:20.781)
You

Wendy (06:25.454)
And Rachel jumps in a little bit and says, she's overwhelmed. And Erica said, yeah, I agree she's overwhelmed. And Kyle's like, listen, we have been giving you grace. She says, you've been late many times. Because Dory keeps saying, I'm not getting grace. And I don't think that that was the case. I do think that they were showing her grace, because they never jumped on her. And even so much as when they brought up about her getting on the plane,

She's like, didn't, because Sutton said you didn't even say hi. She goes, I didn't apologize? No, no.

Kelli (07:02.372)
And she, know, I know she didn't because I remember we spoke about it on the podcast. We all said it. She never once said, I'm so sorry for being late. Unless they had edited it out, which apparently they didn't. Right.

Wendy (07:07.222)
Yes! Yes!

Wendy (07:12.96)
Right, right.

That's exactly what we said. Right. And that's what we said.

Lori (07:17.978)
You know what I'm always wondering? I'm always wondering too with Dorit, is she always so late because she's very busy smoking cigarettes? Very busy smoking cigarettes. You know what I'm saying?

Wendy (07:25.634)
Well, that's what Crystal said.

Kelli (07:25.897)
I think that's a big issue. Yeah.

Wendy (07:28.91)
Crystal said that that was the unspoken thing when they were, because Crystal used to be on Beverly Hills and she said, we were always waiting for Dorit to take a cigarette break. We were always waiting for her on set and it was a big problem.

Kelli (07:40.444)
I'm sorry, I I smoke, we go places. I'm not holding anybody up. Couple of puffs, you put it out and you move on. Smoking a cigarette is not gonna make you 15, 20 minutes late for something.

Lori (07:48.963)
Right, right.

Lori (07:53.935)
But I'm not saying it's the main reason she's late. I'm just saying maybe someone of the many.

Kelli (07:56.304)
Right.

Yeah, I'm just saying for Crystal to say that, I don't know. Personally, I'm not a big Crystal fan. I think she, I don't know.

Lori (08:14.298)
I think we should take these two parts of the podcast and leave them just how they are and put them together.

Kelli (08:21.052)
I'm texting her.

Lori (08:22.394)
That's what I think we should do.

Kelli (08:28.252)
I'm not a big Crystal fan though. think, because Crystal has a podcast with Cynthia Bailey and all she does is like, she like, you know, thinks she's an expert on it. I think she was on like two seasons. She was boring AF, like, I don't know. But she talks about it nonstop.

Lori (08:33.241)
you

Lori (08:41.593)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I think, you know, I think everybody has a right to be annoyed at Dorie. And I think maybe other people in the group would have said something, except there was no need because, you know, Kyle and Erica were both really like hard on it. So it wasn't a situation where everybody else is going to be like, oh yeah, you know, you suck, you're late. Because they were already doing a good enough job trying to bring it to her attention.

Kelli (09:09.936)
Right. Right.

Kelli (09:17.092)
Yes, I think that Rachel saying, Kyle is exacerbating the situation by saying everyone agrees with her. mean, I don't think Kyle should be making that general statement, but, we lost you, Wendy, but now you're back. We just carried on the conversation if that's okay.

Lori (09:30.052)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (09:35.948)
Yeah, we just carried on the conversation. Yeah, so we're just talking about Rachel.

Wendy (09:38.435)
I don't know how I'm going to be able to edit it, but...

Lori (09:43.662)
We should just leave it. We'll just leave it as like kooky technical difficulties.

Kelli (09:43.728)
Well, we never closed out, so we'll just leave it.

Kelli (09:49.836)
Exactly. Your echo cancellation is not on though.

Wendy (09:50.367)
Okay. Okay.

Kelli (09:59.197)
But quite honestly, when I put mine on before, it said you only have to use it when you're not wearing headphones. I'd never seen that before. I don't know. What do you want to do? You want to go out and go back in? I felt like it was better if we just kept going and waited for you.

Wendy (10:08.321)
Really? My able-

Wendy (10:16.003)
Yeah, no, that's fine. That's fine. I mean, I can't put it on now unless I go out and come back in. It's fine. It's fine.

Lori (10:21.21)
Yeah, it should be all right though.

Kelli (10:21.412)
Right. I'm sure it'll be all right. It's happened before.

Wendy (10:26.509)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:28.604)
Yeah, so.

Wendy (10:28.956)
so where were you up to?

Kelli (10:33.488)
The Rachel saying that Kyle's exacerbating it by generalizing and saying everybody agrees. I I think Lori brought up a good point last week when you said like, listen, Kyle's talking about it to anybody who will listen. And most people are just nodding their heads like, uh-huh, like just to kind of go along with it, but not adding like how Erica's like, no, you're right. Like this is bullshit, you know?

Wendy (10:39.339)
Yeah.

Lori (11:00.858)
Mm-hmm. And I,

Kelli (11:02.628)
I think that that's why Kyle's generalizing like everybody's saying it, but everybody's not saying it. Everybody's just going along with what you're saying. It's semantics, but.

Lori (11:10.712)
Right. And like I said, Erica and Kyle are doing a good enough job bringing up the goings on that nobody else, even if they agree, they don't need to be like, yeah, that's true. Like they're doing a good enough job bringing it up.

Kelli (11:24.644)
And I don't think there's anything wrong with them saying to Dorit, like, you're making us late all the time.

Lori (11:30.749)
yeah, we're not having it, absolutely.

Kelli (11:33.637)
The worst part was when Kyle made the erratic statement, only because those are things that can affect her custody. Those are things that could affect her divorce. And I honestly think that Kyle knows damn well that it could. But the other stuff, like you're smoking cigarettes too much and making us late, yeah, that's annoying. And I'm a smoker. That would annoy me if somebody was making me late because of that.

Lori (11:39.681)
Yeah, that was not right.

Lori (11:44.067)
Yeah, so.

Lori (11:56.538)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:00.503)
Well, how about when they pointed out to Jory that she didn't apologize for making them wait to get on the plane and she went around and apologized to everyone except Amanda. I mean...

Kelli (12:01.19)
Take a couple puffs, put it out, move on.

Lori (12:07.064)
Yeah. Absolutely.

Lori (12:13.464)
Yeah, come on. come on. Really?

Kelli (12:13.648)
Now do you think that was intentional? Because I honestly didn't. Really, you really thought it was intentional?

Wendy (12:18.243)
I can't believe you did it and I did.

Kelli (12:26.158)
really didn't think it was intent- I really thought, cause if you're- what- if you look Sutton really was blind. But I guess you're at the table, you know who's there. Yeah.

Lori (12:31.608)
I know she was blocking her, but you don't know who you're dinner with.

Kelli (12:39.022)
I didn't think it was, maybe because I forgot about Amanda too. She was so damn quiet during the dinner.

Wendy (12:43.427)
Hahaha!

Lori (12:44.996)
She was. She said these girls are, these girls are whacked. Let me just be quiet,

Wendy (12:47.391)
It was so interesting.

Kelli (12:51.389)
I'm zipping it up.

Wendy (12:51.681)
watching their faces, watching everyone's face at that table. It was just like, whoa.

Lori (12:56.314)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:01.22)
And even Sutton was like, I was.

leaning forward and Kyle's like stop son

Lori (13:10.202)
That's like, all right.

Wendy (13:12.056)
Yep.

Then Erica brings up

Kelli (13:15.511)
and then Kyle says to Sutton, you had more to say about the Kelly bag than Bo's did.

Lori (13:21.946)
I hate how this is going.

Kelli (13:23.536)
Mm-hmm

Wendy (13:23.543)
Yeah, she did say that. She did. And I'm sure there's lot of truth in that. I'm sure they were all talking about it. I don't think Kyle was the only one talking about it. I don't. I don't think she was. Then Erica said, well, I heard something today at lunch that you had said that you could take down Kyle. You could end Kyle. And yeah, she's like, what lunch was this? And then Sutton says it was...

Lori (13:32.922)
Mm-mm. No.

Kelli (13:44.412)
end cut

Wendy (13:53.621)
It was her and Rachel. was Sutton, Dorie, and Rachel together at lunch, which we saw them when they were back in Beverly Hills. And the exact words that she said was, I have protected Kyle for years at all costs, even when I felt most betrayed. If I took that lead, I would have blown up her whole life. Those were her exact words, which

Lori (14:18.692)
Which were, which were very strong?

Wendy (14:21.335)
They're very strong words and Kyle said, well, that sounds like gossiping to me. Like, so you guys were sitting around gossiping about me and she's absolutely right. She's absolutely right.

Lori (14:22.756)
Very strong.

Kelli (14:30.726)
She is right. I would imagine this is all about the Morgan thing, like when she didn't want to talk about Morgan. I would imagine that that's what it was about, which at this point, who cares? Nobody cares anymore.

Lori (14:43.46)
Well, you know what I had a thought about the whole Morgan thing. I think she got into a relationship with her. Morgan was like, yeah, okay. Like you wanna show like what kind of relationship we have? I'll be on that show. And then I think when she got on the show Kyle and the producers were like, well, we don't wanna come out out. We just wanna go little sideways. And then I think Morgan was like, you know what? She saw all the social media stuff and she said, you know what? I'm out.

Wendy (14:43.907)
But that's-

Lori (15:13.592)
And she told Kyle, look, we can continue our relationship, but I'm not gonna be on that show. And you're not gonna talk about your relationship with me at all. And then I think Kyle decided to handle it by saying that one time, we're not together right now, but blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what I thought.

Kelli (15:22.918)
I think you're right.

Kelli (15:30.958)
I think that you're right. I think that Morgan probably thought when she got on the show that they were just going to show their real life because it's a reality TV show. And I think that Kyle.

can be phony and do things.

Lori (15:46.06)
I think she kind of like maybe backpedaled on it a little or didn't fully disclose and maybe she just really thought one thing and then it was the other thing. I don't know.

Kelli (15:49.126)
Yep.

Kelli (15:52.913)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:56.753)
Right. I agree with you. And I think Morgan was like, okay, if we're doing this, we're going to do it. But if we're not doing it authentically, I'm out. Especially because of the backlash she was getting on social media, which was absolutely ridiculous. Nobody should be getting that kind of backlash on social media. Mo was out with God only knows who. People hopped on him at airports. Like Kyle had the right to do whatever she wanted with whomever she wanted. Yes. It wasn't surprising that it was a woman.

Lori (16:06.947)
of the show.

Lori (16:11.321)
Yes.

Lori (16:19.226)
Right.

Kelli (16:26.512)
for sure, but it wasn't earth shattering. Exactly, who cares? But I think that it wasn't, you know, it became inauthentic the way Kyle and the producers wanted to show it, and Morgan was probably like, no way, I'm out. And good for her.

Wendy (16:29.079)
Who cares? Yeah, like who cares? Nobody cares anymore.

Lori (16:30.33)
Yeah, who cares?

Lori (16:42.008)
Yeah, I'm out. Yeah, whatever.

Wendy (16:47.533)
So after Kyle hears the whole they were gossiping about her, that's when she said, listen, you know, if you're just going to continue to find the worst in me and look for the worst in me, then you know what? I have a lot of amazing friends. You know what? Maybe we just shouldn't be friends. I was very shocked to hear her say that. I was. And Boz is like, are you sure?

Lori (17:06.01)
Well, this is the thing. Right. But this is the thing is that Durie really might want to take heed because I'm so sorry, Kyle does kind of run that show and you need the paycheck girlfriend and you know, or maybe it's all fake anyway. But

Kelli (17:06.62)
You still?

Kelli (17:20.028)
Obviously.

Kelli (17:28.718)
still feel like Kyle is calling Dorit out for what, doing to her for what she's doing to Dorit. Like she's like, you're always finding the fault in me. Dorit's not even talking about Kyle. She's responding to when Kyle talks about Dorit. Like when it gets back to her with what Kyle, like, cause they went to the Hamptons and they had a great time. And then as soon as they get home, it comes back to Dorit from Bose that,

the conversation she had with Kyle. So then she responds to that. I don't think she's the aggressor in this beef. I feel like Kyle is more.

Wendy (18:07.177)
I think Dorit is definitely the aggressor. because, I mean, Hamptons was how many episodes ago when we're still talking about it. It's still coming up. It's like, how many times can we talk about it? Kyle said what she said, and she said, you know what? I'm s-

Kelli (18:10.512)
Really?

Kelli (18:18.906)
Well, it's reason she doesn't trust her.

Wendy (18:24.841)
I, listen, I feel like Kyle has said this many times and I see it. She feels like she's walking on eggshells every time she's around Dorit. There's nothing that she can say that Dorit is not gonna be upset with. There's nothing that she can say. Because she thinks that she is Team PK and everything she says in Dorit's mind is only to hurt her. And that's, I don't think that that's the case. I don't.

Kelli (18:39.504)
Yeah.

Lori (18:48.302)
I don't think that's case either. I'm not saying Kyle's like, know, crier girl.

Wendy (18:53.699)
I'm not saying she's innocent, but I'm just saying, no, but she doesn't have a chance with Dorit. Not with the headspace Dorit is in. She doesn't have a chance with her.

Kelli (18:56.027)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:02.662)
There's definitely different standards that Dory's setting with her friendships with Kyle and then with Bose and whoever.

Wendy (19:10.807)
Yeah, well, because that's when Erica also says, you know, you you're really guarded and you know, you're really protective right now. You know, don't you think that Kyle cares about you? And Erica says, like, I feel like I feel like you're being very defensive. And Dorit said, well, yeah, you know, I I am being defensive. And that's when Bose jumps in. Like you come in and she says that, you know, you came to this group and Kyle says, listen, you have a really bad memory because I agree.

Kyle has been there for Doreep well before Boz came into the group. Erica was there and they were both at that point they were just like, are you kidding me? Like, okay, you could be mad at me for this one thing, but then you're gonna make this bold statement about Boz and all the women combined in this group? Come on, that's aggressive.

Lori (19:43.224)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:44.08)
Yes.

Kelli (19:58.735)
Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, it's, equally as insulting to Rachel, who has been nothing but supportive of Dorit. I know they're new friends, but she's been just as supportive as Bose, if not more, because she's not running to Kyle and talking about Dorit's finances. She's just sitting back saying like, this chick's going through a really hard time. And I know because I'm going through a hard time too. Like, I'm not saying those things about her.

Lori (20:08.633)
Right.

Wendy (20:19.35)
Right.

Wendy (20:22.691)
She's going through, right.

Kelli (20:25.594)
So she's actually being more supportive than even Bo's husband. So it's equally as insulting to her. That was a wild thing for Dory to say and untrue.

Lori (20:28.993)
Absolutely.

Wendy (20:35.681)
Yeah. And Erica says that she's mad that we sat down at this table and we had to wait for you. And Dereese, well, thank you for being honest. But then Erica kept pressing her. Well, where were you? Why were you late? Why weren't you here? Well, I had to check on my kids.

Kelli (20:51.888)
You think she was trying to get her to say like I was smoking a cigarette? I kept waiting for it!

Wendy (20:55.647)
No, no, I think she was trying to get her to be accountable because I, you know, okay, so you were checking on your kids. So how long does that take? You could have texted us. We would have known she's checking on her kids. She'll be down. She was just trying to get her to be, right, but she's not, she's just making excuses for everything. And that's where Eric was like, you know, it's not fair. And then she's like, well, you don't give me grace. And Eric was like, she's,

Lori (20:56.039)
Ha ha!

Lori (21:05.144)
Right, 10 minutes.

Kelli (21:09.082)
Sorry. Right. I'm talking to the kids. I'll be down when I can. That's all she had to say.

Wendy (21:25.277)
She said, I guess I left you guys today when she left them when they were having their little talk and she took off in the car. She's like, I don't owe you anything. And Erica said, well, I don't owe you anything either. Like the truth is like, I was here for you. And then that's when Erica was like, I'm just saying everything else these other mother effers wouldn't say. And she points to everyone at the table. And then did you see like the look on Rachel's face and Jennifer Tilly, even Kathy? Kathy's just like,

Lori (21:47.258)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:54.78)
Kathy's like cowering down. I was like,

Lori (21:55.47)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (21:58.811)
Yeah, Sutton did say though, I'm not super concerned about Dorit's behavior, I'm just calling it divorce behavior. I thought that was actually quite nice of Sutton to say, because they haven't always been the best of friends, those two. Mm-hmm.

Lori (22:00.013)
I'm telling you, there is...

Lori (22:08.482)
Right. Yes, it was, it was nice. It was nice for a second. I'll tell you what though, there's nothing like on fire, Erica. There's nothing, there's nothing like it. And I was like, I was like, Dorit, you, you are just so out of your league. Like the, the whole fact that you can throw like the C word out and it lands like super soft is just.

Wendy (22:19.299)
she was on fire.

Lori (22:37.72)
the prime example of the inadequacy of this conversation because you should not be, you should not be having any conversation with Erica when she's jacked up. just, you should just disengage and cry and move on, do whatever you got to do. No.

Wendy (22:42.342)
my gosh, so true.

Kelli (22:58.012)
Erica ate her up in that conversation.

Lori (23:00.244)
I love it.

Wendy (23:01.687)
And it was all, it all stemmed from Dorit saying, you're going through something, what are you going through?

Kelli (23:08.422)
That... That was horrible.

Lori (23:08.453)
what is she, out of her mind?

Wendy (23:09.795)
I mean, that's what, that's really, that's really what set her off. That's really what set her off. I was like, yes, yes.

Lori (23:12.6)
what jacked her up. yeah.

Kelli (23:14.48)
Yep. As it should. As it should. Everybody was like, like you heard the record like, like what?

Lori (23:16.794)
that, yeah.

Just like.

What

Wendy (23:25.411)
Kyle's like, it's all over the news. Are you kidding me?

Kelli (23:30.332)
Yeah, mean, listen, Dorit saying, well, you haven't called me and told me. First of all, yeah, like Kyle said, it is all over the news. And second of all, I would imagine Dorit is that person that if you do call them and you do start talking about yourself, very quickly she pulls a 180 and it's all about her and that's what you're talking about for the rest of the conversation. Yeah.

Wendy (23:45.94)
she's just talking about herself.

Lori (23:54.873)
Right. So it's like your friend is really down and out and overwhelmed because they're going through a divorce. She's not the kind of person, right, she's not the kind of person that you're going to call up and be like, hey, got a hot new boyfriend. His name is Todd. then no, no, no, no, no. So it just makes no sense.

Kelli (24:02.17)
She has trustees doing her.

Kelli (24:13.71)
Right. Right.

Wendy (24:15.809)
No, no, and it makes no sense. And especially considering we now know what Erica went through about the assaults that happened earlier where she had to call the police, right? So you don't know what she's going through. We didn't know about that because that wasn't on the news, but you did know about that. You did know about that. Come on.

Kelli (24:28.24)
Right. Right. Right.

Lori (24:28.836)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:34.79)
Right? Right? Right. Right. The other stuff aside, you know she just had that experience for crying out loud. So really, how could you say to her you're going through a lot? That alone.

Lori (24:37.526)
Right, which is a big deal.

Wendy (24:43.221)
Exactly, exactly, exactly. Right. I know, but I love when Erica said.

Kelli (24:50.65)
Yeah, she just doesn't see past herself.

Wendy (24:53.855)
She doesn't. is the most self-centered person I think I've ever seen. Well, no. Tamar's right up there with her.

Kelli (25:04.06)
For sure. By the way, have you heard, I don't listen to 2Ts anymore, but when you're scrolling through Instagram, you see clips like, Teddy and Tamara should not recap this show. They are so blindly one-sided, it's ridiculous. I mean, it's just one show, just don't recap it. You sound ridiculous.

Wendy (25:25.069)
I haven't watched it or listened to it. Yeah, no, I haven't listened to it. Yeah, I'm sure they do. It's too close. It's way too good. No, I don't listen to it. I loved when Erica said, I'm the one who brought that word to this group. I mean, that's so true. The necklace, I so remember. And only she could wear that necklace too. Nobody else could wear that necklace. Nobody else could.

Lori (25:31.026)
It's a little too close, you know? Too close to have any kind of, yeah.

Kelli (25:32.878)
It's way too close. It's way too close.

Lori (25:41.722)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (25:42.076)
As she did, she had the necklace, remember?

Kelli (25:53.212)
I love when Rachel was like, ooh, I saved that word for special occasions.

Lori (25:56.763)
He's so funny.

Wendy (25:57.109)
Exactly! I love that chat!

Kelli (26:01.116)
I don't use that word. never use that word to me that word is like I I you know and I obviously have a have a potty mouth, but yeah I don't I'll even spell it out if I need to use if it's so bad that I need to use the word I spell it out

Wendy (26:05.035)
I don't either.

Lori (26:08.258)
It is reserved. It is reserved. Yeah, it's reserved.

Lori (26:18.808)
Yeah, that is is reserved.

Wendy (26:19.245)
Well, in my notes, I put, you next Tuesday. I couldn't even, I just put, see you next Tuesday.

Kelli (26:22.204)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I don't use that word. And I don't use, well, sometimes.

Wendy (26:28.544)
A me-

Amanda and her confessional said, uh, that's the word that we don't use in Oklahoma, Oklahoma. okay. And then Jennifer says it's actually a very popular word in England. doesn't have the same impact as it does here. Although Erica could be very fond of using it. I mean, Erica's vernacular. It is, it's who she is. It is, it is.

Lori (26:37.112)
Yeah.

Lori (26:45.698)
Yes.

Kelli (26:50.315)
It's part of her. What did she say? What did she? Used a different word. I thought I put it in my note.

Lori (26:53.699)
vernacular.

Kelli (27:01.628)
Damn it. It was so funny what Jennifer said about it.

Lori (27:01.668)
But you see, but you can just see the difference, the difference between when Erica says that word and when Dorit says that word. It's a totally, it lands totally different. One slices and one just like falls apart.

Kelli (27:14.373)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:17.943)
Yep. And then Erica calls her a pussycat. What are you, a pussycat? I was like, She's like, I am me. I was like, OK. She just again sliced her down again.

Kelli (27:23.633)
Yeah.

Lori (27:32.207)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:33.661)
I have to be honest, so at this point when Dorit gets up, I'm like, she's definitely going to smoke because, listen, I can go two weeks without having a cigarette. One thing stresses me out, I go buy a pack or I go to Wendy's house and get one from her husband. When you're stressed, you want to, you know, and you're a smoker, that's the first thing you think of. So at this point, Dorit probably could not have gotten up from that table quick enough. So I know she like leaves.

Lori (27:39.898)
yeah!

Wendy (27:40.227)
Of

Lori (27:51.906)
Yeah, that's when you want a cigarette,

Quick enough, yes.

Kelli (28:00.549)
situations a lot and now it's just clicking with me. Like she's leaving to go smoke because she's stressed and can't handle it.

Lori (28:04.473)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (28:08.065)
Right. I like that Cathy.

Lori (28:09.466)
And I just thought it was, yeah.

Kelli (28:09.55)
Not even if you can't handle it, just the stress.

Wendy (28:12.619)
Yeah, I like that they sent Cathy after her.

Lori (28:15.802)
Yeah, I was just going to say that I thought that was interesting how Cathy was the only one who was going to take the hit for the team.

Kelli (28:22.95)
Yeah, but you know what they're saying on social media? I've seen a lot of posts that Dorit does know a lot of shit about Kyle and Kathy went up to make sure.

Wendy (28:25.795)
What are they saying?

Lori (28:33.306)
you

so now see now that makes sense because you know just before like I said, I don't see where financially it really makes sense for DeRitte to keep up this beef with Kyle and act like she has the upper hand. Because it's just not a smart move financially. But that's, but you're right then that, but that may, if that is the case and that makes much more sense to me.

Kelli (28:35.686)
she doesn't spill any beans.

Kelli (28:55.758)
No, you're right. Kyle's part of production. So you're absolutely right.

Kelli (29:04.89)
Yeah, I didn't think of it admittedly, but I had, seen a couple of posts on social media where I was like, good. Check out.

Lori (29:09.891)
Mmm.

Wendy (29:10.015)
No, mean, it is an interesting point. It is an interesting point. I thought that the reason Kathy went is because she was the elder of the group, right? And the most kind of level headed and, you know, most well respected of this group. Like, you know, no one's yelling at Kathy Hilton. Like, who's yelling at Kathy Hilton?

Lori (29:26.766)
Yeah.

Lori (29:30.39)
Right. But Dorit, Dorit again, was just so far into her own head that she had no comprehension of anything Cathy was trying to say and just couldn't walk away and smoke her cigarette fast enough.

Wendy (29:37.539)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (29:37.744)
Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (29:47.227)
Yeah, I'm gonna say this though. Kathy looked absolutely lovely at that dinner. Her outfit, everything, she looked very beautiful. And we would not have gotten to see that had she not gotten up to follow Dorit. She looked very pretty, her whole outfit, everything. And I was like, she was just sitting at the table, it was like, you know, she just looked like it, you know, but yeah, she looked very pretty.

Lori (29:52.691)
after this.

Lori (29:58.755)
If she didn't get up, there you go.

Wendy (30:00.865)
That is very true. Yeah, she did.

Lori (30:07.672)
It was hard to tell. Yeah.

Wendy (30:12.717)
Well then Tilly after Cathy got up said, if Cathy doesn't get her, we're all going to be switched in two cars. And Bose is like, Jennifer.

Kelli (30:23.93)
Wait, how about when Rachel goes, I know it's not the time, but Erica looks hot as fuck, and Boz goes, I know, just let her.

I know, just let her.

Lori (30:34.68)
I liked, I liked too how, Kyle was all pissed off and like, just all jacked up and she took this big stake that was in front of her and like moved it and Jennifer Tilly was like, well, it was really good.

Wendy (30:36.237)
Ha ha ha!

Wendy (30:46.15)
my god, yes!

Kelli (30:47.44)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:49.507)
What did she call it? She called it something. called this... That's it. Yeah, yeah. Fred Flintstone. Get this Fred Flintstone stand.

Lori (30:51.418)
It's a good steak. Like a Fred Flintstone steak or something.

Kelli (30:55.172)
Yeah. But, but see, this is, see, this is what I mean. Like.

Lori (30:56.886)
And Jennifer was like, Jennifer's probably like, I'll take it, it was really good. Press the A1.

Wendy (31:02.333)
Hahaha

Kelli (31:02.798)
Yeah, I just feel like

Like even that, Kyle doing that, like you're that jacked up. Like it just became about Erika and Dorit. So like at this point, you can kind of sit back and be like, okay, I said my piece. I got my thoughts out. Erika's doing a great job down there. but she's got like, I just feel like Kyle is jacked up about something and I really don't necessarily think it's about Dorit. I think that's how it's presenting itself.

Lori (31:13.486)
Right, right.

Lori (31:20.994)
Right. You right. Right.

Lori (31:32.677)
Well, listen, Kyle has... Right. But look, Kyle, we all know, because she's let us know, she has a lot to deal with. And like I've said before, I don't think that Kyle is necessarily jealous of Doriton anyway. But I think that now as her relationship goes on and all these things happen with Mo, she's not really acting angry at him. She's not acting like she's not going to take anybody's bullshit anymore, like...

Kelli (31:57.638)
Bye.

Lori (32:02.104)
She's not doing this whole new woman thing that...

Dorit's doing. So I think there's this little part of her, like she's, I think she's just aggravated at our whole situation. think the whole, yeah.

Kelli (32:07.952)
You're right.

Kelli (32:14.704)
her own situation. I think she just wants to be back with Mo, and Mo clearly does not want that. Mo's very happy with the situation the way it is.

Lori (32:19.97)
and she knows it's not gonna, right, she knows it's not gonna necessarily happen. And like I've said before, I think there's financial things there that makes it at this point easier for them to stay married from a financial standpoint than to not. And I think it's kind of irking her, it's getting to her.

Kelli (32:33.371)
Yes.

Kelli (32:38.406)
But it's also, by them doing that, it also might be giving her some false hope that they're not getting divorced because there's a glimmer of hope they might reconcile. Even though I'm sure she's well aware that financially it's better for them, but it still might be giving her some false hope. Yeah, listen, I feel bad for Kyle, because I really do think that she's in love with Moe and wants nothing more than to be with him, and he's clearly...

Lori (32:48.437)
yeah, who knows.

Kelli (33:05.626)
He's onto something else.

Wendy (33:08.533)
Yeah, I agree. then seeing, yeah, it is, is. Then seeing Erica sitting at the table and she starts crying and Kyle gets up and goes over there and hugs her. she could tell she, know, as Erica is so strong on the outside, but she's really not. that's just, Erica Jane was out for a minute and then she wasn't. You could see the real Erica Jane.

Lori (33:08.89)
Or maybe it's just a whole combo

Lori (33:33.21)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (33:33.521)
I told you when Lisa Rinna said in her book that one of the housewives came to her and said, I can't do this anymore. I'm telling you, I strongly believe it was Erica. I think with the whole lawsuit and Tom going to the nursing home and then jail, and she was probably like, F all this. And, but I don't know. But I just don't, I don't understand.

Lori (33:44.43)
Erica.

Wendy (33:45.005)
I know you said that.

Lori (33:55.578)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (33:57.059)
I still think it's Dorit.

Kelli (34:00.881)
No way. There's no way Doree can go without this paycheck. She's probably the only one bringing money in.

Wendy (34:04.695)
I know there's no way she can go without this paycheck, but I don't think she's as strong as Erica. I think Erica can get through this, because she's gotten through worse.

Kelli (34:12.992)
Right, but I think she had, I think Erika had a weak moment. But how could Dorie not see that Erika was coming from a good place with this conversation? I mean, yes, it went left and, you know, she got angry, but she's very clearly upset and I just, don't see how you could read it any other way than Erika's coming from a good place. Like the whole thing with Dorie and Kyle, like I think it's just,

I think it's so far gone right now that they just need to, you know. But I just don't think that, I find it odd that Dorit doesn't see that Erika's not coming from a good place.

Lori (34:50.596)
Well, I guess...

Cause I think that Duree's in a place where she's not seeing nothing but herself. I think that, like I said, I think that she has let a lot of stuff slide in the past. She's, I think she covered up a lot of stuff for PK. I think she did a lot as a single mom cause he wasn't around. And there was probably as much as she says, she doesn't know how much money they have. I'm sure she knew that it was not all sunshine and roses, but you had to pretend it was sunshine and roses.

Wendy (34:59.267)
I agree.

Kelli (34:59.409)
Yeah.

Lori (35:23.648)
all the time because it's your job and it just becomes a whole thing and I think now she's just on a, she's just got the big F-U finger up and she's not seeing or listening to anybody, which is unfortunate.

Kelli (35:36.112)
Well, even when Cathy goes to talk to her, she's not letting Cathy talk. She's talking over Cathy.

Lori (35:39.382)
No, nothing. There's nothing. No, she's not seeing, hearing anything. Nope.

Wendy (35:40.693)
No. No.

And even in her confessional, you know, she said in her confessional, Dorit, so this was after the fact, you know, probably several months after the fact. She said, Kyle's entire mission was to get the whole entire group to turn against me, to somehow make herself feel better. I don't really think that that's what Kyle's mission was. I mean, really, is that really what you think? Like, it wasn't. That's not the case. And that's really what she feels, because I still think they're not talking even after the reunion.

Lori (36:03.244)
Mm-mm. No. No.

Wendy (36:14.371)
I don't think they solved it. I don't think they solved it. Yeah, I know. Yeah. No, no.

Lori (36:14.786)
Right, Yeah, no, her or Erica either.

Kelli (36:19.766)
really? She and Erica aren't speaking yet either? Well that's not good, Dorit, because you're on the outs with the two other longest standing housewives on the show. The rest of them haven't been on that long. That's not smart at all. I don't think she has the fan base. No, she doesn't have the fan base to sustain her position.

Lori (36:20.662)
Yeah. No, no, no. No, I did say that. No.

Wendy (36:26.934)
No.

Lori (36:32.058)
That's what I'm saying.

Wendy (36:32.545)
Yeah. Right, I know.

Lori (36:35.226)
I'm saying it. No, it's not smart at all. No, to keep it. No, that's why I'm saying to me it's very odd for her to be taking that stance, whether it's true or not, whether that's how she really feels, whether that's really the way it is, because that's your job. That's your job. you're not on a ton of bricks over there. You're on a shaky foundation.

Wendy (36:56.002)
Yeah.

Lori (37:05.454)
This way just doesn't, I don't know, I'm not getting it.

Wendy (37:08.971)
No, I don't get it either. But four days later, that's it.

Kelli (37:09.062)
Yeah, no.

Lori (37:10.958)
Because at the end of the day, is a job. It's a job.

Wendy (37:17.731)
Four days later, they're back in Beverly Hills. We see Dorit's book cover shoot. I love that second outfit she put on. It was horrible. Horrible, I agree. I thought so too. Yeah.

Kelli (37:27.206)
That first look was horrible. Yeah, the second outfit was much better. That first heart or the first one was terrible.

Lori (37:29.559)
is.

Lori (37:33.187)
Yes.

Kelli (37:34.96)
Now the all-black was very chic, as Dorit would say.

Wendy (37:37.269)
Yes. that is a direct word. I like that Bose and Rachel came to support her. And of course, they've got to talk about the whole Italy thing, which I'm so over it, to be honest with you. I don't even want to talk about it anymore.

Kelli (37:51.462)
I know. How many episodes was that trip? Too many. Like three, right?

Wendy (37:56.355)
I think it might have been four. Because this was half an episode. I think it was three and a half maybe.

Kelli (38:00.433)
Ugh.

Yeah, too long, too many.

Lori (38:04.782)
Enough. Too long.

Wendy (38:06.955)
So Rachel announces on a lighter note, she hates her birthday, but she has a party every year to celebrate the end of the summer and the beginning of the new year. And she'll see these people in six months. It just happens to fall when her birthday is. Okay.

Kelli (38:22.79)
So I got the sense that she has a party in the summer and then she must have a New Year's Eve party too. That's how I took it. She hosts two parties a year. Maybe I'm wrong though. We'll have to see if she has a New Year's Eve party.

Wendy (38:37.219)
think what she was saying is because she's normally in the Hamptons in the summer. So she says goodbye to the people at the end of the summer and I'll see you in six months when she comes back to the Hamptons. It's the end of the end of the summer in the Hamptons because that's where she said she normally spends her summers, right?

Kelli (38:47.919)
Okay.

Lori (38:54.648)
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Kelli (38:55.077)
Yes. Yeah.

Wendy (38:57.199)
which, listen, I'm here for a party. don't, we don't need to, whatever the reason is, let's just have it, right?

Kelli (39:03.588)
Exactly. Especially if it's in the Hamptons.

Lori (39:04.19)
Absolutely. Yeah. And if we can wear caftans and jewelry.

Kelli (39:11.322)
That's right. We should go cat me on shopping.

Wendy (39:11.395)
Yeah. So the next... I can't go with you for that. I'm sorry. I would get swallowed up in a cap tan. Just like my head's sticking out. Too little. Too little. Too little. Just too little.

Lori (39:13.412)
Go.

Lori (39:24.13)
I don't think so.

Kelli (39:26.108)
You are she's little she's petite

Lori (39:32.76)
No, we can get you home, you look good.

Wendy (39:35.395)
We see Rachel walking down the street with her son, Sky. I love her kids, I really do. I guess he's doing some back to school shopping and he's gonna be working at that store, Magooz in LA. Looks like a cute store. And she's talking to Jacob a little bit about, no, to Sky a little bit about how things are with his dad. And he's very, you know, kind of.

Kelli (39:41.318)
Yeah, for sure.

Lori (39:48.334)
gonna get a job.

Kelli (39:50.256)
Goose, yeah.

Kelli (39:54.172)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:03.945)
one word answers and listen as a mom of three boys I totally get this you know you're not getting any information they don't want to give you and

Kelli (40:09.532)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:13.494)
And you have to be very careful if you ask one too many questions. If you cross that threshold where you've asked one question too much.

Wendy (40:18.947)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (40:19.202)
Yeah. And you're annoying.

You're annoying and we're not talking to you. We're slamming the door. Yep.

Kelli (40:27.536)
Game over. Yep. Game over.

Wendy (40:28.491)
Yes, yes, exactly. Yep. Especially if you say something they don't like, then you're really annoying.

Kelli (40:34.39)
I mean, it's like stepping on a grenade.

Lori (40:35.425)
yeah.

Wendy (40:40.995)
So Skye's gonna be 15 and Rachel started working when she was 15. I could so relate to this. She got her first job working at the Nine West store in the Short Hills Mall. I worked at the Short Hills Mall.

Kelli (40:52.72)
which is probably the nicest mall. Well, not now that they have that big one with a friggin ski slope. Back in the day, Short Hills Mall was the nicest mall in New Jersey, for sure. Yeah.

Lori (40:58.638)
but back in the day, that was the nicest mall.

Wendy (41:00.223)
No, that's the nicest mall.

Lori (41:03.086)
Yeah. Yeah. That was the bougie more. Yeah.

Wendy (41:04.963)
So I wrote down, I worked at the Short Hills Mall also, but I was 23. And she said that she was the number one salesperson and I was the assistant manager of Banana Republic and I had the highest U.P.T., which stands for units per transaction. So to any of my retailers out there, you know that I was always doing those upselling and those add-ons. You need the socks with the belts and the shirt, and then let's get another outfit on there. So I could still relate to that.

Working in retail when you're young is so much fun.

Lori (41:38.33)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:40.323)
Then we see Bose and her daughter and Keely and the realtor and she's looking at houses.

Lori (41:49.253)
That house did not look like anything that I would see Bo's living in at all. Yeah, it was not her. I didn't think it was her at all. So the whole time they were looking, I was like, this is like not her.

Kelli (41:54.246)
No, no.

Wendy (41:54.947)
Too contemporary, too institutional.

Wendy (42:04.355)
No, didn't. Yeah, no. 5.75 million. No, thank you. Then we see Rachel's getting ready for her party. It's a Studio 54 theme. She said in her head she lives there. I know. I did too. I love the theme. I loved the theme. I loved her outfit specifically too. Not that I could ever pull it off, but hers was perfect. Perfect.

Kelli (42:17.879)
loved that.

Lori (42:18.765)
I love it. Yeah.

Kelli (42:27.064)
Absolutely.

Lori (42:29.004)
yeah, very nice.

Kelli (42:32.176)
They all really look great. One person, was it Amanda?

Somebody I was like, well, they kind of missed the mark.

Lori (42:38.266)
I didn't dig Amanda's. Something was off with it.

Kelli (42:43.868)
Was it? I mean, she's so damn young. She's like, what the hell is Studio 54? I forget. I have to look at the pictures.

Wendy (42:44.119)
What was she wearing?

Lori (42:47.724)
Yeah, she only even know she was wearing like tall sparkly boots and maybe like a short hot pink dress, but it was like a blousey dress. was like the dress was maybe I'm wrong, but like the dress was.

Kelli (42:59.068)
Maybe it wasn't her, maybe it was Natalie. Wasn't Natalie just wearing like a plain black dress? Okay, that's who I'm thinking of. But listen, if Amanda had missed the mark, we're gonna give her a pass because she's 12. She doesn't know what Studio 54 is.

Wendy (43:04.213)
Natalie's wasn't good. Yeah, Natalie's wasn't great. Natalie's wasn't great.

Lori (43:05.89)
Yeah, Natalie's wasn't good either. Yeah.

Lori (43:13.402)
yeah, she don't know. Yes, she's too happy. Exactly.

Wendy (43:16.578)
Yeah.

I love that Caius was at the front door with his clipboard and his pen checking off names.

Lori (43:23.832)
Yeah, checking off people. Yeah, he's so cute.

Kelli (43:25.478)
So cute.

Wendy (43:27.575)
And then when he saw Erica Jane, he said that her hair reminded him of Dolly Parton. I was like, my god, I love this kid.

Lori (43:33.752)
Now, I want to ask you a question. Do you think it was really your hair?

Wendy (43:39.211)
Or her boobs? It was probably both!

Kelli (43:41.649)
I never even thought of that, you're right, it was definitely the boobs. But she took it, she was like, I will take that, I mean, yes, Sally's an icon. I never even thought of that, you're absolutely right. He's like, yeah, your hair. Meanwhile, he's like, they're right here.

Lori (43:47.099)
yeah, she was like, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But it was cute. was cute. was thinking about it. Look at that hair. It's cute. Poor baby. It's cute though.

Wendy (44:05.217)
Listen, at least they were together again and there was not any big fights or anything. But Dorit again, you know, was her kid's first day of school and she gets a phone call from the school that, you know, her kids had been homeschooled prior to this and Phoenix has anxiety. Yeah, I mean, we all know this, right? This is everyday life. Right, like.

Lori (44:20.049)
yeah, that's brutal. Brutal. Brutal. Brutal.

Kelli (44:24.422)
We've all gotten those calls. Not because our kids were homeschooled, but we've all gotten calls like that.

Lori (44:26.606)
Brutal.

Wendy (44:30.195)
We get calls. If you have kids, your kids have problems when they're in school. That's... Yeah, like that's what happens.

Lori (44:32.974)
And they're small. Yeah, it's brutal. It's a whole, whole different thing.

Kelli (44:35.484)
But I mean, could you imagine being homeschooled up to this point and then all of a sudden having to go to a school, like where you're sitting in a classroom with, you know, yeah, no, that's very daunting.

Lori (44:39.256)
No, and then have them go to school. Now, in this age? No, no. Our age?

Wendy (44:50.763)
And I think it was Dorit that wanted them, right? It wasn't Dorit that wanted them to homeschool and PK wanted them to go to school, right?

Kelli (44:51.353)
understandable.

Lori (44:55.724)
Yes. Yeah, because she did it during COVID and then extended.

Kelli (44:57.988)
Yeah, but I also think it was during COVID, right? Where, yeah.

Lori (45:04.024)
Yes, it was during COVID and then it just got extended where she was just like, you know, it's good. They're used to it. We'll just leave it. But then, you know, you're reintroducing your child to school amongst a divorce. It's not good. There's a lot going on.

Wendy (45:07.544)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:09.606)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (45:12.578)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:20.922)
No, there's a lot going on for these kids. I mean, I don't know how old Jagger is now, but if he has a phone and he's on social media, he is seeing some shit.

Lori (45:28.302)
Forget it, it's it's brutal.

Kelli (45:31.908)
Yeah. They seem like really cute kids though. Nice kids.

Wendy (45:33.569)
Yeah, I don't... Yeah, they are cute kids. I don't know how many episodes we have left.

Kelli (45:40.366)
I think there's one, so we're, don't, you know, heard, who was I, who was I listening to? I don't think we're gonna see the wedding.

Lori (45:41.358)
Not too many, hopefully.

Wendy (45:51.063)
I don't know if we are because there's only, we're at episode 16.

Kelli (45:51.344)
But

But they definitely filmed the wedding because in Lisa Rinna, no, not in her book. I remember hearing Lisa Rinna, she wouldn't sign a release to be on the show. So they definitely filmed it, but I don't think we're gonna see it. So I think Cathy Hilton has a party and that's the season finale. So it could be next week.

Wendy (46:01.635)
She wouldn't sign a release. She wouldn't sign a release.

Kelli (46:15.578)
And then you know we'll have three reunions.

Lori (46:17.741)
Ugh.

Wendy (46:18.893)
when we still have to see Bo's get engaged, because we didn't see that yet either. So that'll be next week then too. They didn't say the final episode though. I feel like they would have said the season finale. Like we haven't heard that, right?

Kelli (46:23.708)
That's right. Maybe. They didn't. They didn't.

Lori (46:32.366)
No.

Wendy (46:34.251)
All right, we're going to have to wait and see then.

Lori (46:37.579)
Alright.

Wendy (46:40.163)
Okay, so until next time, I don't have anything.

Lori (46:40.462)
You guys got anything else?

Mm-mm.

Kelli (46:44.004)
No, just the Kyle and Amanda and West thing is going on. real quick, did you see that, which this isn't surprising at all. Mia from Southern Charms said that West hit her up in the DMs. But I mean, that doesn't surprise me at all. I was thinking about it when I read that. like, she's, in my personal opinion, probably the most beautiful woman on Bravo right now, Mia.

Wendy (46:57.713)
that doesn't surprise me.

Wendy (47:13.179)
now you're saying Mia. It's so funny because first you were on sys- first you said Sally. I said Mia last week. You're very flip floppy.

Kelli (47:22.534)
Listen, I told you about Sally. I was very attracted to Sally. Like if I was gonna go for a girl, Sally would be my type. But her behavior this season has totally turned me off. I got the ick factor, and once I get the ick, we're not going back. So now I'm on to Mia. Sally is out, Mia is in. So it's not surprising that Wes hit her up. And she's not saying recently, so.

Wendy (47:24.835)
I know I thought you were I doubt you were

I'm

Lori (47:37.242)
That's all I want. All right, so she's out. Sally's out. I'm the assistant.

Wendy (47:41.323)
And Mia's in, I said that. Mia is beautiful, she really is, I agree.

Wendy (47:50.133)
No. You know, it's come out. Wes was in a long-term relationship with somebody else at the same time, the girl who made the horsehair tie that he wore on Watch What Happens Live the week before.

Kelli (47:51.504)
I guess that's not really news. I just thought it was interesting.

Kelli (48:04.122)
No way.

Wendy (48:05.503)
Yes. yes. Did you see that Watch What Happens Live? It was the week before it came out. Andy said to him, you've heard the rumors. Yeah, well, he had on this tie. He had on a tie. It was literally horse hair. It was a horse tail. It was horse, it was the tail of a horse. And he was showing that off. And then there's a picture. He shouted out who made it. It was his girlfriend. She came out after this whole thing.

Kelli (48:12.321)
I saw that clip. Yes. Yes. I saw the clip.

Kelli (48:18.416)
Like a bolo tie.

Wendy (48:34.017)
He's been playing more than one person. But so is Amanda. Amanda supposedly did sleep with Ben in Italy, which I said that I thought that that happened. Ben, who's on the show now? Yes, I told you, you gotta watch Summer House. Kelly, I told you, you're missing.

Kelli (48:34.374)
He's a dog.

He's a dog.

Kelli (48:44.956)
Really?

Kelli (48:49.21)
Now I think I actually might. But wait a minute, she really? No, I think I, this is the first season I haven't watched and honestly I didn't watch it because I can't stand Kyle Cooke, but. And I don't, again, let me just say this. I do not feel bad for Kyle and all his, all his PR stunts, like trying to get sympathy, stop. And you saying Andy hasn't reached out to you? No, Andy's not gonna reach out to you. Andy's got a reunion to do. So you better just.

Lori (48:53.815)
I certainly won't.

Kelli (49:18.64)
Buckle up and get ready. Because Andy's gonna figure all this out before the reunion comes. That's right. Buckle up, Kyle.

Lori (49:21.654)
And there you go. Kelly has told you.

Wendy (49:25.282)
Yeah, and by the way, Kyle's business is now doing better because of this. West lost some brand deals. Amanda lost some brand deals. Sierra's career is skyrocketing. The only one losing in this situation right now is West and Amanda. Kyle's going to be fine.

Kelli (49:42.16)
So.

Kelli (49:45.724)
So the cynic in me, the cynic in me is telling me that there's a small part that this could all be phony baloney made for TVBS to help Loverboy a dying business. But listen, I'm sorry, you've been doing this for 10 years, Kyle. 10 years and you're still losing money? I mean, what moron continues? Right, is he really losing money?

Wendy (49:48.419)
I know with the cynic in you. Yep.

Lori (50:10.222)
What are you doing?

Yeah. Right.

Wendy (50:15.797)
I so. mean Andy said he had no idea on Radio Andy. He had no idea that this was coming. He was totally blindsided. He was shocked by the statement that they made and it will be addressed at the reunion.

Kelli (50:23.284)
I believe that.

Kelli (50:27.11)
I mean, they're not going to call Andy and be like, listen, we have this idea.

You know? Because I think if they had, well cameras might, it is interesting cameras didn't come back.

Wendy (50:41.623)
Well, mean, everything's out there. What are the cameras going to pick up? We've got the reunion. That's when the cameras are coming back up.

Kelli (50:46.522)
I

Yeah, I will get caught up. I'm gonna get caught up on this season.

Lori (50:49.764)
Well, you don't ask me, because I just think everybody's a liar. Everybody's a liar. That's what I think. Everybody. Yeah, everybody's a liar. It's all bullshit. That's what I think. We better go, because I'm getting feisty.

Kelli (50:56.006)
There you go, Lor. Come to the dark side, Lor. Come to the dark side.

Wendy (50:56.226)
Alright.

Wendy (51:02.177)
All right. Okay.

Alright, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Lori (51:14.34)
Bye.

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