Danny Got BUSTED 😳 | The Valley S3 E10 Recap

Wendy (00:00.974)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.338)
I'm Callie.

Wendy (00:06.904)
Today we're talking about the Valley season three, episode ten. But before we do that, I just wanna remind everyone if you could please head over to YouTube and hit subscribe if you've not done that already. And follow us on all social media platforms. And thank you for everyone who's done it so far.

Kelli (00:22.334)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:24.236)
The name of this episode is Kelly.

Kelli (00:28.632)
Okay. So it's red flags and white claws. Season three, episode ten, red flags and white claws. I told Wendy the name of the I told Wendy the name of the episode was ten red flags and white claws. I'm like, what are the ten red flags?

Wendy (00:35.998)
Red flags. Okay, all right. That makes more sense.

Wendy (00:45.415)
Ha ha

Kelli (00:47.4)
So maybe we're not quite at ten, but there were definitely red flags.

Wendy (00:51.576)
Definitely red flags. we start we start out with Luke and Zach are working out together. I actually love that. I love seeing that.

Kelli (00:53.308)
Kelli (01:00.698)
I did too. And it was at one of those like I I was trying to think of what they're called around here. Like there's like like cross it looked like a like a CrossFit place almost, you know? But

Wendy (01:11.468)
Yeah. Yeah. then we see Jason left the do well, I guess it was his hospital or surgery. He left the doctor and he found out that he's gonna be in the straight leg cast for four to six weeks. listen, I just it's unfortunate that he hurt himself, but I just feel like they're making such a big deal out of this. Like

Kelli (01:35.422)
Well, Wendy, like Janet said, the weight of the house is on her shoulders. I mean, how is she going to do this?

Wendy (01:46.273)
I know. I just

I don't know. It's a different generation. It's just a different generation. That's all I'm gonna say. It's a different generation.

Kelli (01:50.823)
I can't.

Kelli (01:55.249)
I mean I feel like I know women her age who have children who are not quite as I don't wanna use the word useless, but I kind of wanna use the word useless.

Wendy (02:06.539)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (02:07.528)
I mean you're a stay at home mom. Not that that's not a huge job in itself. It is a huge job in itself. I will never diminish that role. but Janet, get come on, man.

Wendy (02:23.783)
then we see Jasmine and Melissa. They're they're talking about the engagement party. They're a little worried about it because Britney has agreed to throw it for them and she's just had her mommy makeover. So I listen, I think that Britney is gonna be able to pull this off anyway. Like she, you know, she's very organized. She's a planner. I think she'll be fine. The fact that she did the crab boil the night before she went in to have surgery, I think just says everything we need to know.

Kelli (02:42.077)
Yes.

Kelli (02:49.096)
She's gonna be fine and she's got people to help her and she's very good at planning parties like we've seen. But did you notice that Jasmine said to Melissa when they were looking at the invitations, why is your name bigger than mine? First of all, her name was not bigger than hers. And I could, it wasn't bigger than hers.

Wendy (03:03.719)
Really see the invitation. I didn't know what the problem was with the invitation. She was is that what the problem was? Because I sh I heard I heard her say

Kelli (03:10.322)
That's what she said. Why is your name bigger than mine? I'm like, I don't think it is, Jasmine.

Wendy (03:17.884)
that's weird. I don't know.

Kelli (03:19.666)
Yeah. Didn't look it to me.

Wendy (03:22.591)
No, and then she's like, I I wanna see how Zach is doing 'cause we have his party tonight. So she texts Zach and he texts back that he's not doing well. So then she calls him and he's like almost in tears that his roommate is finally moving out, but he was supposed to move out yesterday, and he's taking everything and he took his monster fridge. okay.

Kelli (03:47.41)
Devastating.

Wendy (03:47.787)
All right. Yeah. okay.

Kelli (03:52.742)
Mm.

Wendy (03:54.09)
next we see Michael Michelle and Nia go to the cafe and Nia Nia says it took her almost an hour to get there. I guess because she's so far in Santa Clarita.

Kelli (04:06.098)
Yeah. Yeah. And Michelle lives like in LA. Like she's not in the valley. So I would imagine that once you even get close to LA, the traffic I'm sure the traffic's crazy everywhere, but getting into LA is madness.

Wendy (04:14.528)
Okay.

Wendy (04:23.411)
Is yeah, right. But I'm sure Nia is used to going to LA because they work in LA. Like, you know, they have to take the kids. Yeah, the twins are on that show. Danny's always working there. You know, I think that they're doing it all the time anyway. Listen, I think they're very busy. I think they have a lot going on.

Kelli (04:28.973)
yeah, that's right. The twins are on that show, yeah.

Kelli (04:41.296)
Yeah, and now I'm starting to see why she didn't want to move to Santa Clarita. And I I I get it. Like their house is gorgeous and but now I'm starting to get it. I mean the price of gas in California alone

Wendy (04:54.126)
my gosh, yes, that's true. Especially now.

Kelli (04:55.526)
Right? Yeah. I mean we're lucky in Jersey. For some reason we stay reasonable.

Wendy (05:01.281)
Well, it's still high, but it's not as high as California. Yeah.

Kelli (05:02.706)
It's still high, but yeah, exactly.

Wendy (05:07.009)
So she's telling her about the conversation she had with Jesse and she feels like

Michelle is. You know, she feels like that her and Jesse are like at the finish line of their divorce, which is good. I'm glad you know, I'm glad that she's sharing that with her. And Michelle said that she cried and I I it didn't surprise me that she cried. I mean she did ha she loved him at one point. Like we saw we saw those pictures. I I think it's sad myself.

Kelli (05:34.578)
I listen, I I I hate when people get divorced, especially people I love and I always hold out for them to reunite like like a like a knucklehead. I mean my parents are divorced I don't know, thirty years and they're both with other people who are lovely. My mother's remarried and I'm like, Well, you know, you never know.

Wendy (05:47.742)
Ha ha.

Wendy (05:56.76)
Ha ha ha

Kelli (05:58.491)
I mean, between Eric and I, a lot of our siblings have gotten divorced and I you know, it's very sad because these people are your family. Like they're, you know, and then they become your friends. Like Eric's best friends were his brother-in-laws, my on my side and his side. So it's sad when the haz holidays are different and everything's different.

Wendy (06:04.363)
Yeah, it is.

Wendy (06:17.707)
Yes, yes. I mean and you know, she has Isabella with him, so he's gonna be in her life forever. And he is family.

Kelli (06:24.774)
Yeah, and I love that she said he's always gonna be my family, he's always been by my side. She loved him for a long time, and they can be friends if there's not so much hate, which it seems like now, hopefully, because I did listen to the interview on two tees with Jesse and Lacey, and it does seem like they're in a an okay place. He does not he doesn't really confirm, but they ask him about Michelle dating Dr. Dre, and obviously she is.

Wendy (06:46.134)
Yeah, it does.

Wendy (06:54.603)
No, he wouldn't confirm. I think they're holding it for the reunion.

Kelli (06:58.214)
but he did say that there was a whole line of beats all in different colors for Isabelle. That's awesome.

Wendy (07:01.153)
Yes. Yes. Yes, he did. He did. But I think they're not like giving out any tea. 'Cause even when Jasmine was on Watch What Happens live, she Andy asked and s she said no, we'll w we'll just wait for the reunion.

Kelli (07:13.225)
she wouldn't?

Kelli (07:18.087)
Okay.

Wendy (07:20.449)
So I think that's good. I think it's been filmed already too, the reunion, which I was surprised. 'Cause we're only at ep No, we haven't seen any looks and we're only at episode ten. I feel like that's early.

Kelli (07:20.806)
I hope I hope it's true. I I hope it's true.

Kelli (07:27.201)
Yeah, because we haven't seen any looks, right?

Kelli (07:34.684)
Yeah, but there's not that many episodes in for the valley. Like I don't think they get a whole bunch of episodes. We're probably winding down soon, I would imagine.

Wendy (07:46.888)
the next thing is Nia's saying how the group dynamic is crazy when it comes to Daniel. she's like, you know, Jesse and Zach, like they they drink and they get drunk and we don't keep talking about it the next day. It's only when it's Daniel.

Kelli (08:02.258)
Yeah, you know, I I d she's just not

Wendy (08:02.399)
And I do kind of agree with her. I do kind of agree with her a little bit.

Kelli (08:08.359)
I just feel like this says eleven episodes. That can't be.

Kelli (08:16.528)
It might only be eleven episodes. I don't know. That's that said, yeah. it's only showing up to episode eleven. So maybe that's why. Maybe it's only showing up to the next episode that's gonna air.

Wendy (08:16.671)
No, that can't be. Really?

Wendy (08:27.401)
right, 'cause that's the next one. So Michelle in her confessional said she used to do the same thing with Jessie. She's like, I don't know if she's in denial or she just doesn't want people to know. I I don't think she's in denial. I really don't think she's in denial. I think she doesn't want it to be the storyline.

Kelli (08:30.428)
You know, I

Kelli (08:45.938)
Right, but at this point, Nia, it is. For whatever reason, the producers are letting these people just go with it. It's annoying to us as viewers, especially us who you and I who see a different side of Danny. Like some people don't see a different side of Danny and think that he's just like that all the time. I you and I are on the same page here. I think at this point, Nia but I do think she has said, like, sometimes when he drinks he gets

you know, belligerent, rude, disrespectful. And then the next day we talk about it, we go to therapy, we deal with it. Like, I guess she has said that. And to me, like that's okay. Like listen, it's it, you know, if that's what she it's their issue. If that's what she's allowing in her marriage, then that's her that's her right. I'm sure he's great in every other way.

Wendy (09:18.017)
Yes, she s she she admits it.

Wendy (09:27.404)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:33.579)
It's their issue.

Kelli (09:45.458)
So it's just this one thing. And I do think that at some point Danny's gonna get to the point where he's gonna stop drinking.

Wendy (09:52.664)
I do too. I do too. then we see Britney's at home with Cruz and her nanny and Brandon's coming over and the only thing she asked him to bring over was her pain medication because she was going to be running out of it soon and she really wanted it. And of course he shows up without it.

Kelli (10:11.261)
And he didn't bring it.

Kelli (10:17.246)
Brandon

Wendy (10:18.791)
I know. Then then Kristen shows up shortly after and Brennan's Britney calls and gets the medication taken care of, so Brennan's gonna go leave and get the medication so you know Kristen and Brittany can talk. And it when Kristen goes into the other room, into the gym, she said, right? Sh was the gym?

There was an empty can of white claw. She's like, What is this empty can of white claw doing here? And Brittany's like, I don't know. I don't even drink white claw. I mean, the only people that were here were

Wendy (11:01.163)
I mean, Danny wasn't there when they had the crab oil.

Kelli (11:05.404)
No, and I was thinking that, but you saw the flashback. So when she the day she had the pool party, you do see Danny go behind everybody at the island and go up the stairs holding a white claw. Now, I don't know what time frame we're talking, but I would imagine that Brittany has a housekeeper, right? I'm sure she has right. So

Wendy (11:12.482)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:30.637)
Well, she has an annie. Yeah.

Kelli (11:33.882)
If you have an empty white claw in your gym for two weeks, then you need to take that up with your housekeeper because that should have been thrown out already. Was it planted there? Because yeah, Danny wasn't at the crab boil.

Wendy (11:50.965)
Right, he wasn't at the crab boil, so I didn't understand where that was like I didn't understand where that was coming from.

Kelli (11:55.071)
But they do they do show a clip of him walking behind them the day of the pool party and going up the stairs with a white claw.

Wendy (12:02.285)
Well, 'cause that's what right, that's what they want to do. They wanna they wanna make it seem like this is a Danny issue, right?

Kelli (12:09.062)
Right, right. But did you catch before that when Brandon said he was gonna be there Friday, Saturday and Sunday and Britney was like, Wait, I thought you were coming Wednesday and he was like, No, I have things to do. And then when he left, Britney tells Kristen she paid him because he had to take time off from work to help her.

Wendy (12:23.297)
Mm.

Wendy (12:32.471)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:33.808)
Right neighbor.

Wendy (12:36.009)
I know.

Kelli (12:37.394)
Girl.

Wendy (12:41.473)
This guy is a tool.

Kelli (12:43.238)
Yeah, he's gots to go.

But yeah, I didn't get that whole white claw thing. I feel like that was a I felt like it was a setup, but then when they showed that clip of him going up the stairs, I was like, shit. But then I was like, wait, that was like one of the first episodes. I'm sure this chick's got somebody cleaning her house, and why didn't they get rid of the white claw?

Wendy (13:04.501)
Right, because the last time people were there was the day before her surgery when she had the the crab oil.

Kelli (13:09.32)
Yeah.

Yes.

Wendy (13:13.515)
So then we see Danny and E are going out for date night with the baby and the baby starts to get fussy. And Nia said she's about to have a meltdown in thirty seconds. Danny's like, Well what do you what what would you like me to do? And she's like, Well, I'd love for you to wear her and so he does. He gets the thing out, puts her on, and then she's like, Maybe you could just stand up and bounce her for a little bit. She's gonna fall asleep soon. And No, but I'm just like this is

Kelli (13:37.214)
This is a great date night.

Wendy (13:43.064)
This is who he is. He doesn't seem annoyed by it. He just does it. He does it. Which I'm not giving him a pat on the back. I'm just saying he is a good dad. He's there for her. I mean, the baby threw up on him. No big deal. Like, it's fine.

Kelli (13:47.29)
Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (13:54.918)
Right. Right.

Kelli (14:04.382)
Wait, when Nea when Nea says I could cry never having the baby phase again and Danny looks at her and s and he's like, So you're telling me there's a chance for another baby? That was so funny.

Wendy (14:04.456)
so then in Go ahead.

Wendy (14:15.147)
I know that was so funny.

Wendy (14:21.261)
So in I think it was in the after show, the question came up, like which is grosser, poop or throw up? And Danny's like, throw up is grosser. So I'm asking what is that your answer, throw up? That's that's my answer to throw up.

Kelli (14:31.93)
I agree with them.

Yeah, f one hundred percent.

Yeah. When my kids were little, I could handle everything but when they got the stomach virus. Because, you know, with kids, listen, now obviously if somebody's got to throw up, they're making it to the bathroom, right? With kids, they don't. So it could be anywhere. The stomach virus was my was the bane of my existence when my kids were little. And you know, when they're little, that shit lasts for like two weeks. It's not like a twenty four hour thing.

Wendy (14:47.693)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:05.547)
Yes. No, I totally know.

Kelli (15:07.57)
Do you think you're over it? And all of a sudden they're throwing up again.

Wendy (15:11.981)
But just to so people know who don't have children, baby throw up is not the same thing as throw up. That's just like little milk. That's not the same thing as real throw up. Like real throw up is real throw up.

Kelli (15:20.082)
Right, right.

Wendy (15:25.983)
It's horrible. I mean, I I have a child. I'm not gonna name any names, but is very mu v his his whole life has vomited. He's vomited. And I can think of times where we would be driving to Florida, we'd be gone for two weeks, and my gosh, there was one time he was like projectile vomiting in the we had a picture. We had a picture. It was red. Everything was red, like some red juice or something. I was like we wound up having to stay another day.

Kelli (15:39.006)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:48.76)
yeah.

Wendy (15:53.826)
Because I was like, we cannot get back in the car. Like I we can't just like we have to s we have to go find a hotel, stay another day, we have to go buy more clothes because it was ugh horrible. So yes, vomit is not vomit's not your friend.

Kelli (16:05.395)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:10.194)
So then we see Jasmine, Zach, and Jesse all meet up. Zach is still freaking about out about the stress of his roommate moving out. And finally Benji is going to do a soft move in. I don't even know what that means.

Kelli (16:28.766)
Soft movin'. Well maybe he's still married, so he can't do a full on movin.

Wendy (16:34.751)
maybe. so they're talking about the apartment warming. He's like, Well it's not gonna be that warm because we really don't have anything. I mean, they literally had nothing. I was so surprised when they walked in that apartment. I was like, I mean, this is honestly a little crazy. Yeah.

Kelli (16:50.022)
It was sad. It was sad.

Wendy (16:55.008)
Mm.

So then Jasmine brings up that she saw a post that Kristen made about Nia and Danny and how you know, like their couple's goals or something like that. And she wants to know from Zach, like why Kristen rides so hard for Danny and Nia. And Zach's like, listen, Kristen is always gonna be she's always gonna ride for the people that she loves. She's always gonna be there for them. and then Jesse's like, Well, can we just put this thing to bed first? Like, why, like, why is it that

Everyone, whenever Danny gets effed up, like no one lets him do it. Like no one lets, like it's okay. Like he doesn't have a drinking problem. let him just be him, right? And Jasmine's like, you know, brings up that it was okay for Kristen to have Zach and Lala's back about her triggers with Danny, but why didn't Zach?

Kelli (17:35.9)
Right.

Wendy (17:56.524)
Why doesn't Zach stand up for her? She already had her conversation with Kristen, and her and Kristen are good. But why doesn't Zach, you know, have her back in public? That's how she feels. And I thought, listen, I that conversation was totally different. And I feel like Jasmine kind of derailed it. But Zach is like, listen, okay, I get it. I will have your back more in public. but it it does come up from Jesse that.

You know

Wendy (18:34.669)
Danny is the target here. He knows he's the target here and he wants this to be done. Right? He wants this to be done. I don't think it comes out until they go out with Schwartz. When they find out Yeah. Okay. So then before that happens.

Kelli (18:45.778)
Yes. About yeah.

But wait a minute. Jasmine brings up Zach raising his hand at the reunion when Andy asked if who thinks that the essay comment was, you know, out of line. Yes, Zach raised his hand and Jasmine goes to raise her hand. She went, and then put her hand down. So why are you mad at Zach when you went to raise your hand too?

Wendy (18:59.563)
Yes.

Wendy (19:05.121)
Right.

Kelli (19:19.664)
And you even said it was out of line and you got past it. Why are we fucking talking about this again? Like Jasmine, I'm sorry. You I've had it now with it. He did not sexually assault you. I'm sorry. He did it. You know it. He knows it. And he still apologized. Right.

Wendy (19:36.649)
No, and she didn't think he did. Right. She said it. She said it. Right. She said it. Right. She said it. She said it's not it's not that. Like like I don't want to talk about it anymore. Let's move on. That did not happen. Those were Jasmine's words. Right.

Kelli (19:49.34)
Right. So why are you saying to Zack that he shouldn't have raised his hand when you agree with him?

Wendy (19:58.115)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:59.219)
She raised her hand.

Wendy (20:01.523)
actually I'm now I'm looking at my notes. It was it was Jasmine that found the white claw, not Kristen.

Kelli (20:11.956)
why did Jasmine go see her?

Wendy (20:12.385)
Jasmine g Yeah, Jasmine goes over to Britney's and starts with your titties are so small now.

Kelli (20:18.328)
okay. Right, right, right, right. Okay. yeah, 'cause she goes to see and br yes, and Brittany shows her the inspo board. But before before that, Jasmine, when she's out with Zach and Jesse, she's basically pushing, forcing Zack to have another conversation with Danny.

Wendy (20:20.853)
Right. I don't yeah, so it was Jasmine.

Wendy (20:38.679)
Well, yes, yes, she is. Cause he says, All right, I I will have a conversation with Danny. Yes, she was.

Kelli (20:41.21)
I mean

I don't understand this though, Jasmine. If you have unresolved issues with Danny, you go talk to Danny. You go talk to Danny. Why does Zach have to talk to Danny? Do just to show that he's got your back? That's ridiculous. If you have an issue with Danny that's unresolved, go talk to Danny.

Wendy (21:08.215)
Yeah, but I think she wants him to talk to Danny about his drinking. And again, that's not for Yeah.

Kelli (21:12.392)
Just to prove that he's her friend? Like just to prove that he's got her back?

Wendy (21:19.789)
I don't know.

Kelli (21:19.868)
Maybe Zack don't give a shit if Danny drinks.

Wendy (21:22.817)
Yeah. Yeah, I can't believe I got that whole thing wrong with the white claw. Yeah, so it's definitely

Kelli (21:28.668)
I gotta be honest with you, I went right along with it 'cause I thought it was Kristen.

Wendy (21:31.201)
Yeah. Nope, it was Jasmine.

Kelli (21:34.172)
No, you're right, 'cause now I have it in my notes too.

Wendy (21:37.709)
This is why we take notes. I know. This is why we take notes. Listen, we watch a lot of shows. I watched this probably three or four days ago. Do you know how many things I've watched since then? To keep it in order.

Kelli (21:38.706)
Good thing we do notes. Good thing we do not.

Kelli (21:45.916)
Yeah. Yeah. I o I watched it last night. Well, I watched it before the Knicks game, of course. By the way, Go Knicks. Two on the road.

Wendy (21:53.291)
Go Nix is right. Go Nix.

Yep. Gonna come it bring it back to New York and win it.

Kelli (22:00.934)
Yes, yes. And you can you can g feel free to go see the game in a nosebleed seat for a a mere eight grand.

Wendy (22:09.121)
Yeah. We'll be watching it from home. and by the way, this is we've done a couple episodes in June, but happy Pride Month to all who celebrate. I know ma Maddie's going to Asbury Pride tomorrow. I hope it doesn't either. And he will be in New York City Pride also, you know, in the parade being he's meeting them up there, yeah.

Kelli (22:12.594)
We will be watching it from home.

Kelli (22:19.154)
Yes. Yes, yes.

Kelli (22:26.613)
I hope it doesn't get rained out.

Kelli (22:33.478)
Is he going with Ron and John again?

Wendy (22:38.411)
He's gonna be in the parade though, yeah.

Kelli (22:40.314)
Awesome. Awesome. When is Tom Serverse?

Wendy (22:41.548)
Yeah.

I don't even know. He's got a whole calendar of pride events. And I try to go when I can, but sometimes I I'm old. It's just too much for me. Sometimes it's just too much.

Kelli (22:45.552)
Okay. I'm sure. I'm sure. But yes, happy pride.

Kelli (22:55.002)
It's a lot. It's a lot listen, even Eric was like, we should go to New York. Like obviously not to go to a game 'cause I can't afford it. But let's just go to New York, sit in a bar while the game's go on. I'm thinking, that sounds horrible. That sounds horrible.

Wendy (23:03.127)
Right.

Wendy (23:09.099)
Yeah, it does because Yeah. We would get that same energy here. But we would get that same New York energy here. We don't have to drive all the way to New York. We're only an hour away from New York. And have the exact same energy. Yeah.

Kelli (23:13.338)
In my twenties, yes. Yes.

No, we can go to Beacon and watch the game. Exactly. Exactly. I'm good. Yes.

Wendy (23:27.191)
So then we see Jesse meets up with Tom Schwartz and Tom shows up with a bottle of champagne for him and Michelle for when they finally do get the divorce finalized. And then Danny shows up and he's talking about how he has a voiceover job the next day. And

Wendy (23:47.181)
They're talking to Schwartz about his girlfriend. He says it's going great. He loves her, which I was surprised to hear that, and so were they.

Kelli (23:55.186)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (23:58.498)
then Jesse says, you know, to sh kind of to Schwartz, like, what's your take on La La? Like, you know, Jesse hasn't known La La as long as Schwartz does. And

Jesse said, you know, I I keep getting bombarded with questions, was Danny drunk? Was Danny drunk? It you know, it came up the other night when I was with Zach and Jasmine. Danny's drinking. Like, why is this the conversation? Like, why are we talking about this again? And Jesse says he's gonna always stick up for Danny and Nia because we all look up to that relationship. We all drink. And he, you know, he's confirming what Kristen was saying. You know what I'm saying? It's it's not it's not just Kristen saying it.

Kelli (24:37.714)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:40.745)
And Jesse's saying he's so sick of everyone asking, Was Danny drinking? And Schwartz is like, well, I think it's being exasperated, which I do think is true. Because do you think because he does hide it? That's where the problem lies. Because he's hiding it. And Schwartz is like, you know, I've known people with drinking problems. Like, he does not have a drinking problem. and Danny said he still has PTSD.

Kelli (24:54.995)
Yes.

Wendy (25:07.191)
From last summer, he's like, you know, sometimes I feel like I wanna have another one, but I feel like I need to sneak it or hide it because of what happened last summer. And I think that's where the problem lies, is that when you are sneaking it or lying about it or hiding it.

Kelli (25:24.774)
And listen, not to give not to agree with Janet, because I hate to do so, but that was probably her point when she said she saw him drinking the tequila in the pantry that day. Maybe he does have a habit of hiding it. And listen, it's probably not because of any PTSD from last season. It's probably because he's hiding it from Nia. Because if he has one too many, Nia's probably gonna say to him, Daniel, please stop drinking. You're getting to that dark point. And

If you tell a drunk person to stop drinking, and I I've done it myself, Tessa's birthday when we went out to do karaoke, I drank way too much. And Eric told me you shouldn't have any more. And I was like, pfft, and ordered another drink. No drunk person wants to hear that they need to stop drinking. So he's he probably wasn't hiding it from anybody other than Nia in that moment in the pantry with the tequila. And I'm sure that was Janet's point.

Wendy (26:14.433)
That's a fact.

Kelli (26:24.88)
Again, I'll give credit where credit's due. But I st I agree the the sneaking and the hiding. It that's the main problem. I don't think this guy's getting drunk every night. I don't even think he's drinking every night. I think he's got a very bad relationship with alcohol and shouldn't drink. I don't think it happens often, but when it happens it's damaging.

Wendy (26:50.923)
No, I agree. I totally agree. And Jesse's like, you know, I don't think you should have to. You certainly don't have to with us. Like, I'll have your back. But he said, this is what this is what I thought was interesting, you know, it's been admitted over and over that Jax and other people got together and said we want to put a target on Danny's back. That's the first time we've actually had them on camera saying that. Like it's always been eluded, but it never came out this forthright.

And Jesse said, Jack said that, but do you know who else went along with it? And Danny said who? And he and Jesse's like, Well, Brittany. Well

Kelli (27:30.6)
Yeah. I mean, that checks out.

Wendy (27:34.473)
It does absolutely check out. It absolutely checks out. But I will also say what Schwartz said in his confessional was, you know, Brittany doesn't have a mean bone in her body. And, you know, Jax was very abusive. And everything he said was true. Like if Jax says, Okay, let's put a target on this one, okay, well the target's not on me. I'm I'm game. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't even know what she was on board with.

Kelli (27:53.896)
Right.

Basically

Basically if he's not attacking her. If he's ta attacking someone else, he's not attacking her.

Wendy (28:04.897)
Then he's exact, exactly. Yes.

Wendy (28:11.509)
I wish though, I honestly wish that Tom Schwartz would have said that to Jesse and Danny. Because it would have changed the it would have changed the whole dynamic of this conversation, right?

Kelli (28:17.906)
Yes, I agree.

Kelli (28:22.896)
And maybe he did and the producers left it out.

Wendy (28:28.022)
that would be horrible.

Kelli (28:29.584)
It would be horrible, but not unheard of.

Wendy (28:33.869)
'Cause Jesse looks at Schwartz and says, You better not you better not say anything about this and Schwartz says, You guys know I'm a rock. Schw I don't think Schwartz is a rock.

Kelli (28:42.866)
Not right. I think he meant to say like a vault, which I do believe he's a vault. I'm sure he's holding a lot of sneakers. sneakers. Secrets. I'm sure he's got a lot of sneakers too, but I'm sure he's holding a lot of secrets. But no, I I agree with what he said about Britney. I think that's totally true.

Wendy (28:50.433)
Sneakers.

Wendy (29:07.053)
So then we Britney and Janet go to the doctors. Brittany f gets to finally see her body without all the bandages on it.

Kelli (29:13.194)
this is what I wanna know. How did Janet have time to go to this appointment with Brittany while she's holding the weight of the house on her shoulders? Who is holding down the fort while Janet goes to this appointment? It must have been a disaster.

Wendy (29:24.065)
I know, right?

Wendy (29:33.825)
I know, I know.

Kelli (29:36.424)
God help them all.

Wendy (29:39.157)
The doctor comes in the two doctors come in and the doctor said he's very proud of her boobs. I was like, That's a little weird. Like

Kelli (29:46.887)
I mean, listen, I guess it's like when I get to collect on somebody who's owed us a lot of money for a long time, I'm like, woo, all right, very proud of myself. He must have looked at that and been like, this is some good work. This is some good work I did. Damn I'm good.

Wendy (29:57.454)
Yeah, it's like, wow. Yeah, look at these boobs. Look what I made.

Yeah, exactly. And then the doctor's like, Well, they're super, you know, they're super swollen, but it's gonna go down significantly significantly. And then he takes off the, you know, the wrap on her belly and she like starts crying. And she's like, I first of all, she's like, It hurts when I cry. And she's like, I I never thought like, like, where did the stretch marks go? Like, how did you get rid of them? Like, you know.

I I listen, I was happy for her. I'm glad she finally got to do this. Yeah.

Kelli (30:35.848)
my god, I brought tears to my eyes because of what she was saying about s Jax. I'm like Like how do you body shame a woman who just had a baby? I mean he's just yeah, he's just a I mean he's just a a vile human being, Jax. I mean, I don't know what happened to him in his past that made him that way, but he needs like intense therapy. He's a monster.

Wendy (30:41.367)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:46.828)
Your baby.

Wendy (31:03.617)
You know what I think it is? You know what I think it is? and I could be wrong and I I could get a lot of heat for this too. I think that not that it's an excuse, but I think it's the drugs. I think it's the drugs and his mental health. And I think that if he ever does get to a place where he can be completely sober, and I mean completely clean, that means no marijuana, no alcohol, no drugs. Completely clean and sober.

Kelli (31:18.087)
Yes.

Wendy (31:31.477)
And live that way, that we may see someone who is not a monster. I don't th

Kelli (31:36.529)
No, you're right, because I've said it before. My experience with people who use cocaine, they're very angry. But it they it makes them very angry and saying things that are just, you know, outlandish and hurtful and mean. So and these are people I I mean, I've seen people say horrible things to people that if not under that influence, they would never like a gr like a grandparent.

Wendy (31:49.705)
Right. Right.

Wendy (32:03.393)
Right. Right.

Kelli (32:04.786)
Like you would never say that to your grandparent if you weren't under that influence. So yeah, you're right. I'm sure you're right.

Wendy (32:12.811)
Yeah. I mean honestly, I kind of hope I would love to to get that story. I would love to maybe five years from now see Jax come onto the valley when he's clean. Yes. Yes, I would like to see that for him and for his son. Mostly for his son, to be quite honest with you. I'd like for him to his son to see him as not this villain that we all see him as now, you know?

Kelli (32:20.87)
Right, when he is God willing, clean and sober. Yes. God willing, yeah.

Kelli (32:37.854)
Well that's the that's the problem. I mean, this young man, this young boy, he's gonna see this some day. I mean, hopefully not, but chances are he's gonna say it, Cruz.

Wendy (32:46.657)
He's gonna see it. Yeah. Yeah.

So the next thing is Zach and Benji are waiting for everyone to come to their party. And so funny, Zach is talking about the difference between his style of decorating and Benji's style. So Benji likes, you know, like to get his stuff sourced from New Mexico, blah, blah, blah. He's like, and my style is more like I like brand oriented, like, you know, the monster fridge. I was just like, okay. Okay, Zach.

Kelli (33:03.69)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (33:18.002)
This is gonna be a r it's gonna be really interesting. I hope I hope they have like an apartment reveal party.

Wendy (33:24.834)
with they r once they yes. I would like to see that. Yes.

Kelli (33:26.928)
Once it's all done. Yes. Maybe season four will open with that. We'll give them some time. Open season four with that. I feel like we're gonna end this season with Jasmine and Melissa's wedding, which I'm here for. I love a wedding. We're not?

Wendy (33:32.565)
Yes.

Wendy (33:38.077)
No we're not. No we're not. No, because Jasmine was on Watch What Happens live and she was talking to Andy and she's not married yet. They're not married yet. She said a couple more weeks.

Kelli (33:47.679)
so we're only gonna see the engagement party then that Britney throws for the 'cause we see Jasmine in a white dress. I thought that might have been their wedding. Damn. All right. Well I hope I hope we do get to see their wedding though. I mean I can't see them getting like a special episode for it. I don't know. I mean I would I wouldn't mind it. I would like it. I just don't know if we're gonna get that. But we'll see.

Wendy (33:51.851)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (33:56.692)
No, no.

Wendy (34:12.119)
Well, I think it's in it's in New Jersey too, so that would be like

Kelli (34:17.414)
I mean hopefully they film it and we see it when season four starts. I hope they film it. Shit, I wonder where. Do we know where where do we know where in Jersey? We'll find out. We'll find out. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:17.805)
I mean that would Yeah.

Yes, I would like to see that. Yeah, Kristen is in her wedding. She said

Wendy (34:29.963)
We don't. We can s we can Google that. We can find out. so they find out that Janet's not coming 'cause she has to take care of Jason and obviously Britney's not coming. Right, 'cause she just had her surgery. I know. Michelle is the first to arrive with her friend Natalie, and Zack starts we find out that he doesn't have a wine opener because his roommate took the the wine opener, so there's gonna be no wine. So he's

Kelli (34:39.152)
Of course the weight of the house is on her shoulders for crying out loud.

Kelli (34:58.546)
I mean, can you knock on a neighbor's door maybe and see if they have a wine opener? Well, I guess then you're like, b by the way, I didn't invite you to my party, but do you have a wine opener? They're in LA. Fucking door dash it for crying out loud.

Wendy (35:03.044)
my gosh.

Wendy (35:08.054)
No, but still.

I mean, he's been there for how long? 'Cause he lived there with Jasmine, it's the same apartment.

Kelli (35:15.794)
Yeah, I mean I'm sure I'm sure you can find a wine opener within a five minute radius.

Wendy (35:21.909)
I don't know, I'm I'll be honest with you, I'm very confused about this party because the fact that like, you know, he starts pouring the drink into the solo cup. A producer asked Michelle, when was the last time she drank out of a red cup? And her response was, I don't drink out of red cups and I was thinking to myself, you know what? I don't really remember the last time I drank alcohol out of a red cup either.

Kelli (35:34.691)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (35:43.26)
I think Joe's graduation party I was drinking my wine out of a solo cup. But that was just for you know that was just a preemptive strike to not break a glass 'cause

Wendy (35:53.74)
I mean, even when we went to the city on the train and we wanted to bring wine, I brought us coffee cups. I brought us coffee cups.

Kelli (35:58.086)
yeah, you Yes, I did bring red solo cups and Wendy one upped me and brought the coffee cups.

Wendy (36:02.517)
I was like yeah. I was like, I got coffee cups. Not drinking my wine out of a Ritzolo cup.

Kelli (36:09.694)
I loved when Lala said, I'm very comfortable. It looks like the rooms my AA meetings were in. And honestly, that's exactly what I thought when I saw the room. I'm like, this looks like a like a recovery room.

Wendy (36:16.064)
I know.

Wendy (36:23.147)
Yeah. Lacey walks in with Jesse and honestly the look on her face was like

Kelli (36:30.718)
Did you catch when she was looking at the pizza? She lifted every lid and she was like, ugh. And she lifted another one. I mean, she lifted like five lids. What? There's pizza under there. I don't know what you thought you were gonna see when you lifted a lid, but it was all pizza. And I think it was like Domino's. It looked like a Domino's pizza box.

Wendy (36:37.705)
Nope. Yep, nope. I know. And she close it.

Wendy (36:47.369)
I know. I

I know. It was it was funny though. It was bad. It was bad, but it was funny at the same time. It did. It did. And Red Solo Cups. I mean, what are we, twenty one?

Kelli (36:59.902)
And red so.

Exactly.

Wendy (37:07.489)
Tom shows up with his girlfriend and her friend Raquel. And Tom asks Lala to clear it up with his girlfriend that they're not dating. And Lala's like, no, we're not together. And

But it's I don't know exactly how she said it. Kiana said, okay, 'cause I was worried about that and then Lala said something like Well, I might want to date you though or something like that.

Kelli (37:35.986)
Yeah, 'cause she was saying how stunning she was. But I guess Lala took a picture of she and Schwartzy at the Santa Clarita houseworming party. And she put on the t her caption was soft launch. Like as if they were soft launching their yeah, as a joke. So I think that that's why Kiana said that.

Wendy (37:38.506)
Yes.

Wendy (37:45.367)
Mm.

Wendy (37:49.389)
Wendy (37:55.466)
Yeah. So then Lala says I appreciate women a lot, but I can only eat a cookie when I'm effed up. And Jesse is sitting there and the look on Jesse's face is like

Kelli (38:11.326)
Well, you know, I don't know if you remember this, but it was a real quick thing that was out after the season started that Lala and Michelle were dating.

Wendy (38:23.065)
yes, I do remember that. I do remember that, yes.

Kelli (38:24.924)
Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm sure I I mean I don't know if it was true or not. Maybe it was true. It w I mean I'd personally selfishly I'd rather see her with Doctor Jay because I want to see Dre on the Valley, which he probably will never be. But yeah.

Wendy (38:29.047)
I wonder if this was some reference to that.

I don't think it was true. I don't just as much as Tom and Lala.

Wendy (38:41.473)
Doctors Ray, yeah.

Wendy (38:46.497)
Then we see Kristen and Luke walk in and the TV's off the wall and Kristen's like, I gave Zack that TV. So the roommate took this TV off the wall that Kristen. This roommate sounds like I don't know, but he's got all of Zach's stuff.

Kelli (38:56.626)
That Kristen gave him. Who is this guy?

Kelli (39:04.36)
He does. He does.

Wendy (39:10.423)
So then I think this gets really weird. Danny and Nia show up and Michelle says, Did you hear Jesse signed the settlement? And Lacey is sitting right there. And Lacey says, you can join our our our cults. We have a divorce cult over here. And she's talking, I guess, about her and Schwartz. And then Michelle's like, I've never been in a cult. And Lacy's, no, no, no, it's not a real cult. And I'm like, my God. Like, what is going on?

Kelli (39:19.902)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:38.214)
Like, get a sense of humor, Michelle. It was a joke.

Wendy (39:41.099)
I know, but why is Michelle saying that with Lacey sitting right there? Like I thought that that was weird.

Kelli (39:46.099)
Listen, I feel like I don't think Michelle likes the fact that Lacey is basically a cast member. Like this is not what she signed up. She's totally a cast member. I don't think Michelle loves that. And Michelle's like, fuck it. I'm gonna say whatever I want, whenever I want. And if it makes you feel uncomfortable, so be it. I was here first. I got cast on this show first.

Wendy (39:53.454)
she is a cast member.

Wendy (40:05.239)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:08.991)
I don't think it makes Lacey feel uncomfortable though, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (40:11.524)
I don't think Lacey could give two shits.

Wendy (40:14.655)
Nope. She's so unbothered by the whole thing.

Kelli (40:17.458)
Yep. Yep. And I don't think that Michelle's doing it to bother her. I think Michelle's just like, Listen, I'm just gonna I'm gonna act like you're not here, basically. Or I'm gonna act like you're not dating my ex.

Wendy (40:19.627)
Which is why I think it works.

Wendy (40:33.579)
Yeah. So Lacey said, well, I believe in love. I just don't believe in marriage. She's like, I I never want to be married again. And Lala said, Well, I don't blame you. You know, she said and then she goes on, she's like, Well, it was embarrassing. Like I had this really big wedding. And Lala said something about you had a big all that money and Lacey's like, Yeah, I don't care about money. Money flows. I was like, okay. She doesn't care about the money.

Kelli (41:01.064)
Guess I guess for the people coming to your wedding.

Wendy (41:04.065)
Yeah. And then Michelle and her confessional said, Lacey will learn. He Jesse tried to break up with you a couple times, but you won't let him. Like because you have the money. Like she said sh he's gonna propose to you. I do think he might propose to her. I do think Michelle

Kelli (41:21.576)
So Lacey tried to break up with Jesse and Jesse wouldn't let her. I thought that's what Michelle said, right? Because of her money.

Wendy (41:26.763)
Yes. Yes. Yes. That's what yes. Yes.

Yes. Lace lazy tries to Yeah, and how do you not let somebody break up with you?

Kelli (41:34.366)
That's kind of a mean thing to say though.

Kelli (41:39.376)
Right. And you're basically saying he's with her for her money.

Wendy (41:42.551)
Well that is exactly what she said. That's exactly what she said.

Kelli (41:46.856)
That's not nice.

Wendy (41:48.854)
No, because then Lacey offers to throw Michelle a divorce party. And Michelle's like, no. But then she had the whole party planned out. I love this about her. we would go rent the saddle ranch. I'd have cowboy hats for the girls. We'd have these little stations. We'd bedazzle the cow. I was like, she's really giving this a lot of thought.

Kelli (42:07.058)
She really has. Has she thrown a party like this before? And should she now be in charge of Jasmine's engagement party?

Wendy (42:14.925)
there you go.

Wendy (42:21.21)
then we see Zach is talking to Melissa and he's saying that he feels bad that he has to talk to Danny because he told Jasmine that he would at his party.

Kelli (42:29.586)
Right. He's being strong armed into it.

Wendy (42:32.405)
Yes. He said, I don't think he's self aware of how he comes across when he's drunk. And Danny says, to Nia, I'm gonna go grab me one of those ice drinks. Like, do you want anything? And he goes over there, we see him grab a red solo cup and he pours alcohol in there and sprites. Which I didn't know what the alcohol was until I saw the handle of Tito's. It was Tito's, which is clear. Like

He poured clear alcohol in there with his sprite.

Kelli (43:03.378)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (43:05.813)
And then Zach goes in the kitchen afterward and says, wait, Danny, do you have a drink? Like Danny's like, I'm drinking water. He's like, Okay, go fill it up. Like, let's get everyone filled up. And he's filling up everyone's cups. And Zach then says to Danny, I'm gonna grab you. Can we can we go talk for a minute? And he takes him into the room and closes the door. And Danny's like, like, what's going on? And I don't blame him. I'm I mean, I get that he wanted to talk to him in private, but it was a little weird, right?

Kelli (43:32.552)
Well, it's just like Danny's probably thinking like, here we go again. Meanwhile he just s secretly poured a drink.

Wendy (43:37.025)
Yeah.

Wendy (43:40.533)
Yeah. Or not so secretly.

Kelli (43:43.462)
Right, not so secretly.

Wendy (43:47.031)
So Zach said, you know, as bros, I just want you to know that what's been being said about you, I don't it's not about drinking and yes, it is actually about drinking. Why'd you say that?

Wendy (44:00.268)
Zach said

Kelli (44:00.519)
It's listen, it's about the way you treat your wife when you drink. That's what it's about. And it makes everybody else feel uncomfortable. You know this, you've heard this.

Wendy (44:04.139)
Jackson, I yeah.

Wendy (44:13.271)
Zach says, listen, you have a Danny says, Listen, you have a big personality. I have a big personality. Basically, Danny said, I've already apologized. And Zach said, Listen, I just want you to know I'm on your side. I'm with you on that. Like so and Zach said, and tonight you're not drinking. And then so no one, you know, no one can say anything. And then we see him twenty five minutes, you know, earlier pouring the drink, and I'm just like,

Kelli (44:38.056)
I think it comes up next week.

Wendy (44:40.255)
I probably does. 'Cause Zach and his confessional said I

Kelli (44:41.564)
I think Zach asks them, like, Were you drinking at my party?

Wendy (44:45.771)
Well, 'cause Benji saw him do it. I don't know if you caught that. Did you catch that?

Kelli (44:50.514)
I didn't catch that 'cause I was like focused on Danny pouring the drink. So in the peripheral Benzi Benji was watching

Wendy (44:52.204)
Benji

Wendy (44:58.401)
Benji saw him do it and I believe Benji was there when Zack said to him, do you have a drink? I'm drinking water and Benji knew that that wasn't true 'cause I I'm clocking this as it's happening. I'm like, shit, like this isn't gonna go well.

Kelli (45:10.546)
Right. Yep.

Wendy (45:15.649)
So then Ben Zach calls everyone in, he wants to give a speech. He's like, I've been in LA for nine and a half years, and there's certain people that have always been there for him. And he asks Kristen to come up. and he wouldn't have survived without Kristen and Britney. Obviously Britney couldn't be there because of her surgery. And he says, There's been multiple months when I haven't been able to pay for my rent, and I haven't been able to pay for certain things, and when I've been at my lowest, like they've always stepped in.

And Zach said I could never repay them, but what I can repay is the money that I owe you. And Kristen said, You already did that. Like you did it ten times over. And I he zells her the money or whatever it is he does. And she didn't want it, you know, she's like, No. And I thought that was so sweet. I just think that they really do have a true friendship. They really do.

Kelli (46:07.802)
absolutely, absolutely. I loved it when Zach ended it with Does anybody wanna say something nice about me?

Wendy (46:15.85)
I know.

Kelli (46:18.43)
He's so funny. I listen, I l I love Zach. I'm glad he's getting his I I hope this is his happily ever after with Benji and then in that apartment or any other apartment, you know?

Wendy (46:20.78)
He is funny.

Wendy (46:30.655)
I do too. I like Zack this season so far better than I did the first two seasons. 'Cause I I kind of feel like we're getting to see the real Zach because he came on like not that he came on, but we all know that he was Britney's best friend from Kentucky. And when Jax and Brittany were there, it was hard for I felt like Zack to really be the real Zack that we are seeing now.

Kelli (46:35.548)
Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah.

Kelli (46:48.37)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:56.414)
Yeah, I mean he was f you know, a friend trying to navigate a friendship with her while she's in a toxic marriage. That's very difficult.

Wendy (47:02.221)
What was

Right. Right.

Wendy (47:09.623)
So on Watch What Happens Live, it was Dory and Jasmine and Melissa was there on the Oprah. Yes, that's why I watched it.

Kelli (47:13.726)
Dorit was on? I have to see this. I did not see I've I have a hard time with that and the after shows. Like I can just get through these shows. But I'll I'll definitely watch that.

Wendy (47:26.583)
I know.

So that's where I found out that Melissa was there sitting in the Oprah chair and the wedding is coming up. That's where it came up. Jasmine said she was glad that Zach had the conversation with Danny. Andy said we got this question a lot. What's going on with your divorce proceedings talking to Dari? were the ladies right in being justified with your spending? Her response? No. That's it. No.

Andy did ask he did ask about Erica and she said she's talked to Erica a few times since the reunion. But then we did the the poll questions. Whose side are you on? Dorit or Kyle? Kyle got seventy seven it's Kyle and Erica. It's either Doreet or Kyle and Erica. Dorit got twenty two percent, Kyle and Erica got seventy seven percent. She said that her and Erica had a couple conversations and it's been good.

Kelli (47:58.175)
Wendy (48:27.807)
Should Kyle

Kelli (48:27.89)
I'm kinda surprised. I would have thought it would have been more fifty fifty on that. Just just from what I see online.

Wendy (48:32.111)
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. Should Kyle and Darique

Kelli (48:37.406)
'Cause people aren't really loving Kyle anymore.

Wendy (48:41.129)
No, but they do love Arica. They do love Erica.

Kelli (48:41.554)
Like they used to. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (48:46.731)
Should Kyle and Dorique give it another shot?

Yes was twenty four percent, no was seventy six percent. But Dorit said that I've had a very long friendship and I know once I can say I'd never speak with her, I could never say that, but once she's ready, I would be open to it. So Dorit is now opening the door. And Andy seemed shocked by that and I did too. But I do think it's because the rumors are that she's not gonna be filming.

Kelli (49:15.91)
Exactly. Which which by the way is ridiculous because

Wendy (49:20.277)
It is ridiculous. I don't know if it's true though either. We don't know if it's true.

Kelli (49:23.088)
Right, right. Like if it is true, that is ridiculous. Like she should be filming, she should be on The Housewives just as much as Kyle should be on The Housewives because Doree is actually showing everything that's going on in her in her life with her divorce and all that. Kyle's not. And listen, Kyle's given a lot to the show. I'm not saying she hasn't, but I've read where as soon as filming wrapped up,

She went out to Nashville and and is back with Morgan. Like we're not seeing we're not really seeing what's going on with Kyle. So I personally feel like Doree has every right to be there as much as Kyle. But but with that said, I'd all I do not want to see them fighting the whole season because that was nauseating. That was nauseating. Yeah.

Wendy (50:11.469)
gosh, no, no, no, that was horrible. I totally agree. the next question is the group making too big of a deal about Danny's drinking. Seventy percent said no, twenty-eight percent said yes. Jasmine said it's not about the drinking, it's about the behavior, and it's for me about my friends not understanding that other people's opinions matter. Okay.

Kelli (50:35.262)
Okay, but then you shouldn't have forgiven him and said that it wasn't that like it wasn't that deep. You said it. You shouldn't have said that then.

You can't change your mind on that. You can change your mind on a lot of things. That you can't change your mind on.

Wendy (50:46.028)
I agree.

Wendy (50:51.381)
Right. The next one was, Do you think Brittany is a mean girl? Forty percent said yes, sixty percent said no. Jasmine said absolutely not.

Kelli (51:01.564)
I think that forty percent's a pretty high number.

Wendy (51:04.917)
I do too. Do you think Zach has Jasmine's back? Seventy nine percent said yes, twenty one percent said no.

Wendy (51:15.511)
Jasmine said he is my best friend. I love him, but I don't feel like I got the same support. So she's still holding it.

Kelli (51:23.878)
Then you shouldn't have raised your hand, Jasmine.

Wendy (51:27.245)
Wendy (51:31.615)
Andy asked Dorit who she's spoken to the most since the reunion. Of course she said Bose.

Andy asked, what did Bose make of your showing at the reunion? Dorit says she think I she thinks I held my own. we really didn't talk about it.

I no. Yeah.

Kelli (51:49.01)
Wait, which is it?

Wendy (51:54.89)
Next one was seeing how upset Erica was, do you regret not being softer or were you just not ready? Dorit said, I think it was both. I was a little in my feelings and I just wasn't ready. I think that that is true.

Wendy (52:09.451)
He asked her then, which of the women have congratulated you on your book now that it's been released? She goes, You know, I've gotten that question a lot. And the answer was just bows.

Kelli (52:20.84)
Really? Cause the book's out.

Wendy (52:24.257)
I know the book is out. I know the book is out. And and y

Kelli (52:26.286)
Nobody else? I'm actually kinda surprised that Amanda didn't. Just because I feel like Amanda became a girls girl towards the you know?

Wendy (52:32.205)
Well no, Amanda, I mean it came it was on a podcast I think where Amanda said 'cause Andy asked about that too. Doris House is for sale and Amanda said maybe I'll just buy it.

Kelli (52:46.352)
Okay, so Amanda was not giving a congratulation.

Wendy (52:46.635)
Ha ha ha

No, no, no.

Kelli (52:53.308)
Wow, Amanda.

Wendy (52:55.467)
Yeah, Andy said it seems like it was very important for you to tell the story of the home invasion in the book and it's far more detailed than we got we got on Beverly Hills. I think people are gonna be surprised and how intense it was.

Kelli (53:07.326)
Don't make me read this book, Andy Cowen. Do not make me read this book.

Wendy (53:12.737)
You're not reading the book. You know, she didn't send PR packages to anybody really. I mean, you saw that one. That was a PR package, by the way. But I mean, Kyle didn't get one, Teddy didn't get one, Tamara didn't get one. Chrissy balls well, because you she must have, you know, I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (53:20.914)
Yes.

Kelli (53:26.878)
Yeah, but Chrissy Balls? Why's she sending it to Chrissy Balls?

Kelli (53:38.334)
Hmm.

Wendy (53:41.452)
Yeah. Whitney I learned this that 'cause Jasmine was talking about in the city. Sh you know, she was watching In the City. I didn't know that Whitney was on The Bachelor. She's part of Bachelor Nation. I didn't realize that. I I must have forgot.

Kelli (53:56.595)
Yes. Yes. I said that the first episode. Yes. So it listen, this you know, I there's I know they're still together. I listened to the Kenny interview, but I don't I'm not buying into the whole I moved across the country. Like she wants to be on reality TV too. I'm sure they're very much in love. I'm sure they're a great couple. She wants to be on a reality TV show. Yes, she was on The Bachelor, yes.

Wendy (54:09.366)
Yes, they are still together.

Wendy (54:25.985)
Yeah, on the same season the same season Nick Vial. Was Nick Vial on was Jasmine on Nick Vial season?

Kelli (54:26.076)
Now was she on with Jasmine?

Kelli (54:33.83)
I don't know. Is that where Nick Vile came from, by the way? I could never understand where this guy came from. he was The Bachelor? I stopped watching The Bachelor a long time ago.

Wendy (54:36.853)
Yes, yes. That's where he came from. Yes. That's why I don't like him. I never watched it, and that's why I don't like him. But I do listen to his interviews sometimes if he has somebody on I want to hear, but I don't like him.

Kelli (54:50.95)
Yeah, of course. Of course. Mito, I totally agree.

Wendy (54:57.783)
The viewer asked Jasmine why she said she wouldn't have been friends with Lala if they weren't on the show and what is her current friendship with Lala. Jasmine said, Well, her and Lala used to be close. They used to work at Sur together back, you know, during the pandemic. And then she hadn't been around. And then, you know, we did the show and she just showed up. So it's not like we would have been hanging out. Which again was just like that didn't really explain it. But then she did go on to say that

Kelli (55:25.486)
I kinda get it. Go ahead.

Wendy (55:28.555)
She did go on to say that she's had my back and I would say like, you know, I wouldn't say we're good friends, but I do respect that she's she's had my back on some things. So that means that there's been some kind of I'm sure it has to do with Danny. And Lala has her back. Right?

Kelli (55:43.89)
Danny ex of course of course of course of course of course of course of course.

Wendy (55:50.571)
And then the next one was, Is Michelle still dating Doctor Dre? And what are your thoughts about the news? And Jasmine said, Just wait for the reunion.

Wendy (56:00.269)
that

Kelli (56:00.934)
I mean we haven't seen any more pictures of them together.

Wendy (56:04.843)
Yeah, but Danny yeah, we haven't seen any, so we're gonna have to wait. Andy asked to read if her kids have been introduced to PK's new girlfriend. She said, I don't think PK's been introduced to his new girlfriend.

Kelli (56:16.538)
I was gonna say, who's PK's new girlfriend?

Wendy (56:19.445)
I have no idea. I think that was Andy just being shady. And that's all the notes I have on that. Yeah, that's who Andy is.

Kelli (56:22.192)
I think it was too. I don't think Andy likes Dory very much. I'm kind of surprised she was on the show, but I guess she's got a book out, so Yeah. But he I don't think he's ever liked her, quite honestly. I mean, she's part of the reason L V P left the show. And he loves L V P so

Wendy (56:29.953)
She was that's why she was on for her book.

Wendy (56:36.833)
I don't think he has either.

Kelli (56:46.716)
Interesting.

Wendy (56:46.882)
Yeah.

I don't have anything else for this, do you?

Kelli (56:52.102)
No. No. But I'm glad you watched watch what happens live. I think I might watch it though tonight.

Wendy (56:53.473)
I can't believe

Wendy (56:57.055)
Yeah, it was a good one. I mean at least, you know. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

Kelli (57:04.264)
All right. Thank you.

Wendy (57:05.709)
Till next time. Bye.

Kelli (57:08.009)
Bye.