Bravo's Love Hotel - Character Dynamics in Love Hotel

Wendy (00:00.962)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.634)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.595)
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Kelli (00:13.011)
You're gonna sound like peter brady when his voice changes

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It's a New Jersey thing this time of year.

Kelli (00:18.344)
my god.

Kelli (00:23.999)
Pauline's out of control right now in Jersey. Out of control.

Lori (00:27.731)
Yes, in New Jersey, it's out of control. Out of control.

Wendy (00:27.991)
It is.

Wendy (00:32.75)
So we're gonna talk about Love Hotel, season one, episode one. And there are four main characters, Giselle Bryant and Laurie He-

Lori (00:45.811)
Yeah, want you to tell me about these people because I don't watch the other shows. I only watch, I've only watched Salt Lake and I've watched New York and what else? And Beverly Hills. Right. Those are the only ones that I've ever watched. And I only watched, I only know Luan from Crappy Lake and that one girl's trip. So yeah, I want you guys to give me like a little rundown.

Kelli (00:58.533)
Beverly Hills. Right, the new New York.

Wendy (00:59.054)
the new New York, only the, right.

Wendy (01:04.672)
Watch.

Wendy (01:12.834)
Okay.

Wendy (01:16.64)
Okay, so Giselle Bryant is from Real Housewives of Potomac. yes, stunning. She is 54 years old. She was married to Pastor Jamal Bryant, and he's the father of her three children. She has one daughter, and then she has two twin daughters. Their names are Angel, Adore, and Grace? Grace.

Lori (01:16.967)
about these peeps.

Lori (01:22.683)
Absolutely beautiful. Stunning.

Kelli (01:24.511)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (01:33.333)
Okay.

Kelli (01:44.639)
race.

Wendy (01:46.55)
Ador and Angel are the twins and Grace is the older one. And they're all off to college and she has been single for some time and then she got back together with Jamal for a little bit. But Jamal has always lived down in Georgia. I don't know. He's a player. Listen, Jamal Bryant is a player. He actually just got remarried and his theme was wicked. So he wore a green.

Lori (01:49.448)
Okay.

Lori (01:52.798)
Okay.

Kelli (02:01.951)
That was for a storyline though, they really weren't back together.

Lori (02:04.881)
Okay, okay, okay.

He's a player, okay.

Wendy (02:15.648)
emerald green suit and his new bride wore a pink wedding gown. Yes. Yes. But the Giselle Bryant is, if you watch this show, you can see it. She is a smart, quick witted, not taking bullshit from anybody. So she's perfect for this. And then the other cast mate is Ashley Darby, also from Real Housewives of Potomac.

Lori (02:21.237)
All right, say no more, say no more. Okay.

Kelli (02:21.983)
True story. True story.

Lori (02:35.047)
Okay. Okay.

Lori (02:43.573)
Also absolutely stunning. Stunning.

Wendy (02:45.806)
Yes, she is 36 years old. She's still divorcing when she's filming this, I, is she divorced now? I don't know. When she's, I think it's officially divorced. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So right now she is officially divorced from Michael Darby. She has two sons. Her storyline was, Michael Darby was a lot older than her. He was from Australia.

Kelli (02:56.243)
Yeah, I think they're devour- Yeah, because she did that post with the paper, with the newspaper.

Lori (02:56.904)
Okay.

Wendy (03:13.516)
He was a businessman and.

Kelli (03:17.395)
He was a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

Wendy (03:18.998)
He was a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater, but she was very open about, know, they did kind of threesomes and she was okay with that. She was okay with that with her marriage, but then when she had children, she didn't want that to be a part of it anymore. So we saw them go through that. We saw them go through some therapy. We saw them sign a post-nup because at one point they were gonna get divorced or something.

Lori (03:19.509)
Uhhhh... Naughty.

Lori (03:35.933)
Okay.

Wendy (03:49.472)
But anyway, they're divorced now and like you said, she is stunning. She likes to dance. She also likes to sing. And that's a little bit about her.

Lori (03:57.097)
Okay. Okay.

Kelli (04:00.243)
Yeah. So Shannon Badour is 60, I believe, and she's from the OC, and she was married to David Badour. They have three children, also a set of twins, and then an older daughter, who are all in college as well. So she and Giselle actually have a lot in common. Her first husband, David, was a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater, and she...

Wendy (04:05.347)
Yes.

Lori (04:15.731)
Okay.

Wendy (04:17.751)
Yes.

Wendy (04:21.944)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (04:24.351)
He cheated on her while she was filming the show. She forgave him. They tried to reconcile Didn't work out so they got divorced then she dated John Jansen for five years

Lori (04:32.991)
Okay.

Lori (04:37.555)
And didn't he get with like another girl on the show and then she was on the show? I kind of heard something about that. Okay.

Kelli (04:40.319)
Yes. So it was a very tumultuous relationship which ended in her getting a DUI because she left his house driving under the influence after an argument and ran into a house basically. So she got a DUI and then, you know, she did all the right things to recover from her DUI.

Wendy (04:41.41)
Yes.

Lori (04:53.253)
I remember that.

Wendy (04:55.512)
House, yeah.

Lori (04:56.222)
Right, right.

Lori (05:04.925)
Okay.

Kelli (05:05.085)
went into treatment and did all the things that Karen Huger should have done. And I actually have that in my notes that Karen Huger should take notes from Shannon Baddour because this is how you handle a DUI on Housewives. You do all the right things and then you get to be on another show. So that is Shannon Baddour and then Luann. Okay, so Luann, you know, was married to the Count. They have two children, Noelle and Victoria, and she's had...

Lori (05:21.108)
Right, right.

Wendy (05:21.229)
Yes.

Lori (05:24.618)
Okay.

Lori (05:29.288)
Okay.

Kelli (05:35.559)
other men since. She's dated, she has serially dated, yes, and then she married this gentleman Tom who had a history with two other original, well not original, not Sonya, but two other of her cast mates on the old Rony. And they all knew Tom was a player and he was probably only with her to be on the show.

Lori (05:37.297)
Okay. Wasn't Fungi like, yeah, didn't she get married again?

Wendy (05:37.39)
She's been married twice.

Lori (05:56.351)
Lori (06:02.517)
Okay.

Kelli (06:02.759)
She knew he had cheated on her while they were engaged. It was brought out on the show by Bethany. She married him anyway. And they were divorced, what, within months?

Wendy (06:14.222)
Within the first year, yeah, within the year, yeah.

Lori (06:14.269)
I think a year or something I thought I read. Yeah.

Kelli (06:16.509)
Yeah, yeah, and she's been single ever since, but she is, and of course, you know she has her cabaret show, you know. She is fun to watch, Luanne. I find her fun to watch.

Lori (06:24.275)
Yes, yes, yes. Okay, all right, I'm good now. I feel like I'm caught up. yeah. I loved her on Crappy Lake. I absolutely adored her.

Kelli (06:33.629)
Yeah. I mean, listen, she makes no bones about it. Like she likes to be with men. Like she likes the company of men and she does not hide anything. And I think that that's so awesome.

Wendy (06:33.72)
Yes.

Lori (06:45.801)
Yeah, she's,

Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (06:51.576)
I agree. mean, you know, the woman's 59 years old. She raised her children, let her live her life, you know?

Lori (06:56.937)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:57.119)
Absolutely, and let's just say they all look amazing. All of them. Shannon's facelift, priceless. Give John Jansen whatever he's asking for because it was well worth it.

Lori (07:03.113)
somewhere else.

Wendy (07:03.244)
They do. They really do.

Wendy (07:11.032)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (07:12.285)
Okay.

Kelli (07:12.531)
They all look amazing.

Wendy (07:15.042)
They do. They do.

So we did a rundown of the ladies. Joel is the host of this show, but he probably will not be the host of the next Love Hotel because I don't know if you're aware of this. saw it. Well, after this finished filming, he made these horrible remarks about how horrible Shannon Bedore was.

Lori (07:30.833)
No, I- yeah, I saw that whole thing. yeah.

Kelli (07:33.223)
What?

Kelli (07:42.536)
he's the one, that's the guy?

Wendy (07:44.756)
Yes! Yes!

Lori (07:45.161)
Yeah, I took screenshots of it. I couldn't believe it. If you want me to read them.

Kelli (07:48.351)
I totally forgot. I did hear about it. I totally forgot about it though while I was watching it. So the main guy, the main host.

Wendy (07:49.622)
Yes.

Lori (07:53.741)
yeah.

Wendy (07:55.49)
The host, yeah, the host.

Lori (07:57.705)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:58.493)
And what something was going on at the time who...

Wendy (08:01.856)
It was right after Shannon got her DUI.

Lori (08:06.413)
so let me tell you what he put. Yeah, let me tell you what he posted. He said, just because you're a pathetic drunk on a reality television show, best known for a string of failed relationships and a DUI does not make you a star and does not give you license to treat the people you work with like they are subhuman, period. They will make me delete this, but DM me, I would like.

Wendy (08:06.508)
It was right after... It was right after... Yeah.

Kelli (08:08.413)
It was like a character assassination.

Lori (08:34.879)
to see some videos. And then he put, well, that was quick anyway. Don't regret it. Hope you screenshot it. Hope she suffers. And then, yeah. And then let's say, and then he posted a whole, Lord. I have to, a whole apology after that. But I was like, wow, really?

Kelli (08:46.418)
that's

Wendy (08:49.538)
Hmm

Wendy (08:55.726)
Apology.

Wendy (09:01.186)
Yeah, he will not be back, I'm sure. They will not.

Kelli (09:02.995)
Now let me ask you a question, do you believe him?

Wendy (09:05.652)
No, because I don't believe him because Luanne and the people that were there and said that she was nothing but lovely and

Kelli (09:15.487)
Because I do feel like some of these women, like I can't picture it, I can't picture acting like that, but I do think that some of these women, they can't all be lovely to work with.

Wendy (09:26.058)
No, they're not, but you know which ones aren't lovely to work with. You know which ones aren't. I mean, after Garcelle resigned, production came out. A bunch of producers came out in her defense and said that when they were filming, when they were working with Garcelle, it was a lovely day. She was very good to her production people. And we've never heard anything bad about Shannon. And Shannon's been on many shows.

Kelli (09:29.151)
That's what saying. Yeah.

Kelli (09:46.131)
You could tell, yeah.

Kelli (09:50.631)
No.

Wendy (09:53.15)
And if there was a problem, we would have known about it. Like, we know Ramona was a problem.

Kelli (09:55.948)
Well, I think she came out and said right I think she came out and said like if I were that difficult to work with Why would they ask me to be on another Bravo show?

Wendy (10:05.132)
And she had no idea what he was talking about. She had no idea what he was talking about. And her fellow castmates said that they didn't see anything either.

Kelli (10:07.199)
Right.

Lori (10:09.097)
you

Kelli (10:16.103)
Interesting. forgot, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, I don't think he'll be back. I mean, I think that, I mean, hopefully this is a good show done well and we see it again with different housewives, with different single housewives, right? Like that would be ideal.

Lori (10:16.211)
Yeah, so I don't know.

Wendy (10:17.568)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (10:31.83)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (10:33.695)
I think that would be fun.

Wendy (10:35.746)
That would be ideal. As a matter of fact, when Luanne was on Heather McDonald's show, Luanne thinks that she should be the next host. And I actually agree with her. I think she would be a great host. She would be a great host because one, she knows what it's like to be single. Two, she knows how to coach the single women. Like Joel doesn't, how can he relate to these four women?

Lori (10:45.668)
my gosh, you'd be great. You'd be great.

Kelli (10:47.891)
That's a great idea.

Kelli (10:57.567)
Alright.

And didn't open it up saying he was a fan? Like he was like a Bravo fan and that's how he got the gig?

Lori (11:01.205)
Now!

Wendy (11:08.47)
I mean, I, he didn't s-

Lori (11:08.885)
I know he was on Watch What Happens Live one time.

Kelli (11:13.481)
Like I don't think he has, I thought that's what it was. was like, damn, how do we get that gig? We're fans too.

Lori (11:21.021)
Yeah, yeah, right?

Wendy (11:22.57)
Yeah, but I think Luanne would be a great host. think that if, if I hope that they do it again and I think that she would be a great host.

Kelli (11:25.694)
Yeah.

Lori (11:29.769)
Most definitely.

Kelli (11:30.547)
She's really setting her, she really teed that one up well, didn't she?

Wendy (11:33.298)
She did, she did, she did, she really did a great job on Heather McDonald. I'm telling you guys, if you haven't listened to it, listen to it and you'll learn so much about Luanne and the things that she's done.

Lori (11:33.779)
Cheer, Helly!

Kelli (11:43.433)
Yeah, I'm gonna listen to it because I'm just seeing a lot of negative comments about it on social media. So I'll be curious to see what my take is, yeah.

Wendy (11:50.796)
Yeah, what's your take on it? Yeah, and she was a nurse also, by the way, Lori. She was also a nurse. And a model, and an actress. She was in Italy modeling and an actress. Like, she's got like, yeah. And she was courted by like counts and princes and like, she's connected. She's way more connected, I think, than Sonia.

Lori (11:51.295)
See it for yourself.

Kelli (11:55.293)
Yeah, and a model, which is how she met her husband.

Lori (12:04.597)
Cool.

Lori (12:12.735)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:15.729)
And we didn't know this because when she first started Roni, she was still married to the count. We didn't, you didn't see him often. We did not know until after they got divorced that they had an open marriage, but it wasn't her choice. Her husband wanted an open marriage. She did not. She was very happy being married to her husband, raising her children. He wanted the open marriage and that's how it came to be. And it didn't end well.

Wendy (12:20.844)
Yes. No.

Lori (12:30.709)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (12:38.581)
Right.

Wendy (12:45.228)
Well, she said that when she started Roni, her marriage was on the rocks. you know, she was looking for someone to have children with, and he was that person. And he was looking for someone to have children with, too. And the reason they got, because they got married very quick after they met, the reason they got married so quick was he knew that there was all these other men courting her. And she's stunning. I mean, the woman is stunning.

Lori (12:45.46)
okay.

Kelli (13:04.094)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:15.34)
She's very well spoken. like, you know, she's a countess, like she is a countess. And she also talks about on Heather McDonald how when she, you know, she first started the whole comment when she was getting into the taxi and Bethany was introducing her, this is Luanne. She'd never been called by her first name before because of the circles she ran in. It wasn't that she was expecting to be called countess. It would have been, you know, Miss De La Sebs, right.

Kelli (13:20.446)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:41.18)
Mrs. de la Seppe.

Wendy (13:43.81)
You don't call, just don't address me by my first name. It's just not what she's used to because she's used to dealing with a whole different level of people. So anyway, that was the interesting part about that. So back to Love Hotel. These guys, they get there and they have no idea who these women are. They have no idea. Like they...

Kelli (13:56.467)
Yeah. Back at the Love Oat.

Lori (14:06.697)
Do we believe, but again, you know, you know me, I'm such a skeptic.

Kelli (14:08.159)
I don't think, I think that guy Frederick knew exactly what he was doing.

Wendy (14:13.592)
Probably Frederick did. I mean, one of them said he didn't have a TV.

Kelli (14:18.847)
A couple of them said they don't watch TV. Like, what about sports?

Lori (14:20.181)
and then yeah it was a couple of them and was like what?

Wendy (14:21.332)
I know, I know. Right, right. So let's see. The first guy we meet is Ralph. He is 61 years old and he is the sound system specialist. He, yes, he's the one who doesn't watch TV. He is from Nashville, Tennessee, but I believe he's the one who moved to Puerto Rico when he retired.

Lori (14:37.318)
yeah, that was cool. He has a cool job.

Kelli (14:39.881)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:49.618)
Yeah, he's the surfer.

Wendy (14:50.838)
And he surfs, right? Is he the surfer?

Kelli (14:53.171)
I believe so.

Lori (14:54.677)
I couldn't keep them straight.

Wendy (14:55.052)
That I know wait

Kelli (14:56.61)
wait a minute. Yeah, I don't know if he's the surfer.

Wendy (15:00.76)
Wait a second.

Kelli (15:03.007)
Because he's got ten, a ten and eleven year old.

Wendy (15:06.33)
Ralph does? Hold on. Jerry moved to Puerto Rico. Okay, so Ralph is 61 and he does live in Nashville, Tennessee. He was raised in New York and he's the one who did the, know, he was with rock bands and on tour and the proud father of a pair of sons, age 10 and 11. That is correct. Then the next guy we meet

Kelli (15:07.506)
Right.

Kelli (15:14.685)
Maybe Jerry's the one, yeah.

Wendy (15:35.598)
is Wale. He is 38 and I teach yes I do too an IT director from Rhode Island.

Lori (15:41.173)
I like him.

Kelli (15:46.249)
As soon as I saw him, I'm like, he looks like Happy Eddie. And then later on, he says he's from Nigeria. Well, he's Nigerian.

Wendy (15:49.057)
He did.

Wendy (15:53.11)
He's got, yeah, he's, yeah. He did, I thought the same thing. He said he saw one episode of The Housewives and they were fighting, so that's all he watched, which I believe, like that I believe. This is very believable. He was never married and he was in a relationship for five years. I thought this was interesting and he said that that five year relationship taught him that

Lori (16:03.647)
Yeah, absolutely. Yes.

Wendy (16:24.894)
He went to therapy after a five year relationship. I think that this is a little odd. Like what man is going to therapy on their own after a five year? I'm not saying it's not a good thing. I think it's a great thing, but I just don't think that many men are that self aware that are like, I was in this relationship for five years and maybe there's something wrong with me or something going on that this didn't last.

Lori (16:33.589)
think it's a good thing. I don't think that's odd.

Kelli (16:37.181)
No. Right.

Lori (16:49.279)
Well, just all, it all depends on what the relationship was. mean, he could have been with somebody who was like narcissistic or something. Like he could have been, and maybe he had some really good friends that were like, hey, you know, maybe it's not what you kind of think it was. Like maybe you should talk to somebody and you know, maybe you already has a family member that talked to somebody already. And then was like, hey, do you want to, you know?

Kelli (16:54.235)
Yeah, there's gotta be circumstances.

Wendy (17:13.994)
It could be. I kind of thought that he just said that so that Ashley would be like, like you're the sensitive. Yes, yes. Because what woman is not going to want a man who's willing to talk about his feelings, right? And go to therapy. Like, how often do we see that? I mean, seriously.

Kelli (17:22.972)
Yeah.

Lori (17:23.246)
you he was just putting a fly on the rod and whoosh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

Kelli (17:34.579)
Right, right, right, right, right.

Lori (17:37.715)
Well, it would be really nice if it wasn't a line. It would be nice if it wasn't a line, so.

Wendy (17:43.598)
It definitely would be. And listen, I think everyone should go to therapy. That's just my opinion, right? Then we meet Philip. He is 63. He is from LA and he is an investor. So Philip is the one that you guys were talking about that you said you think that he watched the show.

Kelli (17:48.573)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (18:08.568)
He, we don't know that much about him. just think, no, we really didn't. My first impression of him is he's a little quirky and that's about it. But that was my first impression of Earl too, to be quite honest with you. But then when Earl started talking, I was like, yes, the crocodile shoes.

Kelli (18:08.659)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:14.185)
We didn't learn a lot about him this episode at all.

Kelli (18:28.007)
me too. Earl was definitely quirky.

Kelli (18:32.891)
yeah, when he talked about his second wife. Dear God.

Lori (18:33.055)
Wait, is he the one with the shoes? Is he the one with the shoes? And his wife passed away? Yeah. I like him. I like him. I like him. I like quirky.

Wendy (18:37.856)
Yes. Yes. Yes. After battling leukemia two times. I mean, I like him too. I like him too. Well, know, Corky is perfect for Shannon. And I had noticed when they were sitting there talking, I think he was there when Ashley was asking questions.

Kelli (18:41.523)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:45.683)
Well, I can, so.

Kelli (18:54.845)
Yes.

Wendy (19:00.398)
And he just like got up when she asked if you'd ever, have you ever been married? And he just kind of got up and walked away. And I was like, hmm, I thought to myself, that's a little odd. And then when he was talking to Shannon and he said that and she came back with a snarky, oh, I guess she was, or what did you do? Or I guess she was 20 or she was 20 something or something. Right. Yeah. And then when he told you the real story, you're like, oh, okay.

Lori (19:20.605)
Right, yeah, think she was younger, yeah.

Kelli (19:20.893)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (19:28.86)
yeah.

Kelli (19:29.415)
And he said, I didn't want to say this all on the first night, which is why he obviously got up when Ashley brought it up, which that's totally fine. I mean, it's such an emotional thing to have to talk about.

Lori (19:34.217)
Right.

Wendy (19:38.23)
Right, right, no. Right, which is why I believe him too, is because, you know, like unlike Wale, I think, you know, like I just think he's a little bit more of a smooth operator. Whereas I think, I think that Earl is just genuine and you get all the quirkiness with that, right? That's just my impression. We have.

Kelli (19:43.997)
Yes, totally, totally.

Kelli (19:52.382)
Yeah.

Lori (19:52.575)
Who's the player?

Kelli (20:00.733)
Yeah. Yeah.

How about when Luann was talking to those two guys and she's like, I'll be right back, I'm just gonna go refresh my drink. And then they're like, she's not coming back. She's over there talking to another guy. Typical Luann.

Wendy (20:07.758)
Loved it. Totally loved it. Coming back.

Lori (20:13.449)
See, Canada.

Wendy (20:16.622)
I love that though. But that's who she is.

Lori (20:18.035)
switches out on the prowl.

Kelli (20:21.319)
Yep. I mean, that's what they're there for. Nobody can get mad at it.

Lori (20:23.081)
Ben? See you there. No? No, no.

Wendy (20:26.238)
No, exactly. Right. Exactly. Exactly. So then we meet Mark. He is 61.

Kelli (20:28.169)
Clearly you weren't holding her attention.

Lori (20:30.857)
Right. Or there are, there's tons of people there.

Kelli (20:32.799)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:37.792)
Yes, exactly. mean, how many are there? Like eight? Yeah. Yeah, so that's two for each of them. I guess that's what they figured. I feel like they should have maybe given them 10 to choose from. Right?

Kelli (20:37.843)
Right! Yeah. I think there are eight.

Lori (20:41.353)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:45.183)
Yeah.

I do too, I didn't think there was a lot of guys.

Lori (20:49.299)
Yeah, I think there should have been more. Yeah, I thought there should be more. Definitely.

Wendy (20:52.864)
Yeah, maybe next time. Maybe next time give them more to choose from. Yeah.

Kelli (20:57.054)
Yeah.

Lori (20:57.193)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (21:00.396)
So Mark is 61 and he's the New York real estate developer, which you think that he would get along with Luanne, right? Because they're from New York and they have that whole New York vibe. And he's the one with the silver hair and the beard. I mean, he's a very good looking man. I think that's her vibe too.

Kelli (21:10.045)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (21:20.339)
Yeah, I think that's her vibe. I mean, I think it might be Shannon's vibe too. Quite honestly, he could be Ashley's vibe too, based on her past with Michael. But.

Wendy (21:30.83)
Yeah, but he was married for 13 years and has five children. That's a lot of children for 13 years. Yeah.

Lori (21:39.111)
Boy, I still have kids. Yeah

Kelli (21:41.225)
Very busy, very, very busy. No wonder they're not together anymore. That's some stressful shit right there. Right? Damn. Exactly, exactly.

Wendy (21:45.998)
Yeah, right. Exactly.

Lori (21:48.913)
Absolutely. Even with help, that's some stressful stuff.

Wendy (21:55.51)
Yeah. And he's the one who said he does not have a TV. So then we get to Earl. He is 59, a legal consultant from Lawrenceville, Georgia. That's near Atlanta. And never married and no kids. I mean,

Lori (22:00.597)
Hmm?

Kelli (22:14.961)
No, you're talking about Frederick, not Earl.

Wendy (22:19.123)
No, I have that for Earl, no-

Lori (22:19.519)
Earl has the shoes and was married to the wife thing. Yeah. Earl wears the shoes.

Kelli (22:21.167)
No, Earl had- Earl was married twice.

Wendy (22:25.811)
okay.

Kelli (22:27.401)
This must be Frederick. I have the Frederick was never married.

Wendy (22:29.086)
Okay, that could be Frederick.

Lori (22:33.106)
Okay, so that's Frederick, yeah.

Wendy (22:33.262)
Hold on.

Yeah, see, I told you, like taking these notes. It was confusing. I had to keep stopping. I had to keep stopping and rewinding. And I was like, wait, and then they only put it up for a second. I was like, no, no, no, I got it. Like, don't make this so difficult. Okay. Nicholas 45. He's the crypto entrepreneur from Scottsdale, Arizona. He was the other one that was like vibing with Ashley, the younger one.

Kelli (22:39.935)
It was very confusing.

Lori (22:40.885)
yeah.

Lori (22:46.932)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:50.739)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:06.862)
He said, I thought this was honest, he didn't think it would be this hard to find a soulmate.

And who else? Ralph. Ralph, okay. So then we see Ralph is talking to Shannon. Giselle is talking to Jay. She was really vibing with Jay too. He's 46. He's a marketing director from Boston, Massachusetts, and he has two boys. And he said he's looking for someone real. I did notice that, you know,

Lori (23:19.157)
couldn't keep track of any of them.

Kelli (23:29.608)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:44.222)
Ashley was talking to him for a little bit and she was like, know, Giselle's my girl. And then all of a sudden somebody pulled Giselle away. Who pulled Giselle away? Let me see, hold on.

Lori (23:56.82)
knows.

Kelli (23:59.785)
well, wait, that was, that was at the, you mean at the end? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was at the end. was who Shannon was talking to.

Wendy (24:03.308)
I was at the end, yeah.

Wendy (24:09.326)
Jerry? No. No, because Jerry, Luann went on the date with Jerry.

Kelli (24:14.495)
The way I went on the date.

Wendy (24:16.942)
Mmm.

Lori (24:18.407)
her clamshell right? She went on the clamshell date. I love how at the end of it she's like, okay, I'm out. Because she kissed him and there was like no, no vibes and she was like, okay, bye. I love it.

Wendy (24:20.747)
Yes.

Wendy (24:28.524)
Yes.

yeah, so Ashley's talking to Jay and then they see Gisele goes off with Ralph. Okay, yeah, Ralph. All right, so let's get to where they get to, they find out that they're each gonna go on a single date and they will be able to pick this person the next morning. So I don't know how long they got to spend with them before they have to pick this person, but whatever. It didn't seem like long. It didn't seem like long, right?

Kelli (24:36.35)
It was Ralph.

Kelli (24:55.847)
Not long. Uh-uh.

Lori (24:57.415)
And y'all

Wendy (25:01.694)
So let's see.

Luanne picks Jerry and yes, they're in the beach in the clams and they're tasting different sauces. Luanne asks, yes, oysters, yes. Did I say clams? Yeah, no, but it was a clamshell, yeah. Yeah, so she asks him what he does in the day to day and he says he gets up, goes surfing and he's a homebody. Well, that's not.

Lori (25:11.037)
Yep, and they go on the clamshell.

Lori (25:19.579)
at oysters is not right.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Kelli (25:25.097)
Yeah, no, those look good. Those oysters looked real good.

Lori (25:35.685)
Not her speed at all. Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico, yeah. Not her speed at all.

Wendy (25:37.25)
That's not her speed. That's definitely not her speed.

Kelli (25:38.803)
No, because he's the one that lives in, where does he live? Puerto Rico? Yeah, so yeah, I mean, and yeah, he's surfing, that's what he's doing.

Wendy (25:47.502)
Right. And she said, she's like, she even said to him, I'm not sure if I could retire to a beach. She said, I am an action figure. And she is an action figure, right? And then like you said, she kissed him and she didn't feel the chemistry. So Giselle picked Jay and they were having the $25,000 tacos.

Lori (25:48.286)
Right.

Kelli (25:55.069)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (25:55.273)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (26:06.621)
What the hell was that?

Lori (26:06.985)
Which looked gross. It looks gross, I'm sorry.

Kelli (26:10.047)
What? 20, why 25,000? What?

Lori (26:12.725)
Because it had like gold leaf on it and shit. No, I don't need to poop gold and pay that money.

Wendy (26:13.6)
So it had gold leaf, it had expensive caviar, I think it had wagyu. Yes, it was a combination of lobster, it was a combination of all this stuff. I would have asked for a refund and I don't know.

Kelli (26:21.971)
Wagyu beef, yeah.

Lori (26:22.001)
Yeah, yeah lobster or something.

Lori (26:31.283)
Yeah, I'm not down with it.

Like I said, I'm not, I'm not-

Kelli (26:35.933)
I'd like to return this for cash, please.

Lori (26:39.305)
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to poop out gold leaf. No.

Wendy (26:39.37)
Yeah, exactly. You know what? I mean, they weren't paying for any of it, but...

Kelli (26:41.215)
you

Kelli (26:44.768)
I'm like, I know, I'm like, did she just say $25,000 for a taco?

Lori (26:46.535)
Right, but I'm just saying.

Wendy (26:49.568)
Yes. So Giselle thinks he's a little bit boring after that. Then.

Lori (26:51.147)
Cuckoo cuckoo.

Kelli (26:56.895)
Gisele definitely needs somebody with an edge. Like we saw her in that speed dating, like she asked the one guy, have you ever been to jail? And he thought he had to say no. And she's like, you don't have to say no. Like she needs somebody with a little bit of an edge.

Wendy (27:04.833)
Yeah. yeah.

Wendy (27:13.848)
She definitely needs someone who's going to keep her on her toes and give it back to her. Like, that's who she needs.

Kelli (27:17.021)
Yeah, right, right. She doesn't want somebody who's just gonna fall in line.

Lori (27:17.621)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:25.275)
No. No, because she'll eat them up.

Lori (27:25.521)
No, no, no, She seems like she needs like a little bit of a bad boy going.

Kelli (27:27.839)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:31.631)
Mm-hmm for sure for sure

Wendy (27:34.892)
So Ashley picks Wale, and they're making the cacao and chocolate. And yes, it did look very good. Then I guess you're supposed to try and open the bean without breaking it. And if you can do that, which Wale could, that means that you're ready for marriage. I that was OK. Yes. Yeah, Mayan tradition. Yes. So Shannon.

Lori (27:41.054)
Which looked really good.

Kelli (27:42.879)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (27:50.154)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:50.227)
Yeah.

Lori (27:55.699)
Right, right. That was a Mayan something rather, tradition or something. Kind of bullshit they just made up.

Kelli (27:59.263)
Clearly they just said that.

Kelli (28:05.023)
Exactly.

Wendy (28:05.102)
Exactly, exactly. Shannon goes on her date with Earl and they go for a wine and cheese tasting. He's wearing the white shoes again. Yeah, the cheese. like the... I think that that's so odd. Like one of them is getting a $25,000 taco and she's getting wine and cheese. I mean, I know, right?

Lori (28:12.639)
Looked like the cheese was nasty.

Lori (28:17.353)
They were not digging the cheese. They were not digging the cheese.

Kelli (28:17.577)
What?

Kelli (28:26.419)
Right. Can we level this out? Level the dates out.

Lori (28:26.867)
Yeah. I did like, I liked. Yeah. I did like their date though. I thought it was nice. I liked their date. Yeah.

Wendy (28:37.4)
I did too. I did too. Shannon thanks Earl for being so vulnerable. And then she starts telling him about her DUI. And she's another one who was gonna keep it close to her chest and not tell anybody, she just can't help it. Like that's just who she is. That's who she is.

Kelli (28:55.475)
First night, or day.

No. Yeah. I'm the same way. I'd be the same way. Like, this is my story.

Lori (29:03.251)
Yeah. Well, you know, you might as well, you might as well rip the bandaid off. You might as well. Just get it over with. Right. That's what I got going on.

Wendy (29:03.662)
I mean

Kelli (29:08.383)
Of course, these are the flags that you should be aware of. I'm gonna wave them right in front of your face and then you decide. Yeah.

Wendy (29:11.604)
Right, right, right.

Lori (29:15.305)
Right. This is how it is. Yeah.

Wendy (29:15.788)
Right. Yeah, this is a good point. This is a good point. So then after all their dates, like the four couples wind up all back together and they're like hanging out together and they're sitting around the hot tub. then Ralph asks Shannon if she wants to go for a drink. And you know, she does. Shannon, I thought it was funny in her confessional with Lou Anne, she's like, I've never dated more than one person.

Luanne's like, well, you're at Love Hotel. You can do that. And she's like, yes. Many times. Exactly. Exactly.

Lori (29:46.087)
time yeah you can do it

Kelli (29:49.341)
like have you and Luann's like yes. The more the merrier.

Lori (29:52.457)
Yes, many times, yes.

Kelli (29:57.215)
You

Kelli (30:03.423)
But listen, I know I live in jeans and black tops, so I am no fashionista. But I feel like Shannon dresses too frumpy for her shape. And I know her weight fluctuates. That's my life, I live that. But I feel like she wore all these boxy dresses. She is conservative, but it's coming off as frumpy. Look who you're with.

Wendy (30:06.37)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (30:25.134)
She's conservative though, that is her style. She is very conservative.

Kelli (30:32.157)
You're with Ashley. mean, she's gonna put it all out. Luann's gonna put it all out.

Wendy (30:32.386)
Well.

Lori (30:35.059)
You know what though, she-

Right, but you know what? If that's her, then that's her. She strikes me as somebody who just needs to be comfortable in her own skin. So if she's going the Lily Pulitzer route, then that's her game. You know what I mean?

Wendy (30:38.914)
Yeah, but Shannon shouldn't... Right.

Kelli (30:49.427)
Well, yeah.

Kelli (30:54.311)
That's exactly what she looks like.

Wendy (30:57.216)
Yes.

Kelli (30:59.697)
She looks like she's in Lily Pulitzer 24 seven.

Lori (31:03.163)
Right. Right. So I guess that's just her gig.

Kelli (31:07.283)
Yeah, it's her gag. Yeah, all right. Yeah.

Wendy (31:07.49)
And that's fine, that's fine. That's the kind of guy she's gonna attract. She's not gonna want the guy who's gonna want the Luanne. But after she has the drink with Ralph, then she sees that Ralph goes to talk to Gisele and then she sort of feels away about that. Like, I can't compete with Gisele. Well, you're really not competing with Gisele. You can't think of it that way. And then Ashley's talking with Nick and she's intrigued by him.

Kelli (31:21.023)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (31:29.587)
No you can't, no.

Kelli (31:36.881)
am not. am not. Nick kind of gives me the ick. A little bit.

Lori (31:38.313)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:39.991)
You're not.

Lori (31:41.941)
gives you the egg.

Wendy (31:45.718)
Well, the fact that he's 45 and never been married, and I think that's kind of, not that it's a red flag, I mean.

Kelli (31:55.049)
He's giving me a weird vibe, Nick.

Lori (31:56.917)
Well, we're gonna say, we're gonna say.

Wendy (31:57.718)
Okay, he's a crypto guy. mean, I think crypto is a weird thing, right? Like we don't even know what it is. It's nothing we can touch or see. Like, I mean, what do you want? Like this is what demand us. Just remember. Yes, just remember he's the crypto guy. that's a little scratch your head, right?

Lori (32:02.421)
Yeah, it's a weird thing. Yeah, it's a weird thing. Yes, it is a weird thing. Right. Right. He deals in imaginary money.

Kelli (32:06.847)
I know, exactly. It's,

Lori (32:15.699)
I generate money.

Kelli (32:18.675)
Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Something's off with Nick. I'm keeping one eye on Nick.

Lori (32:23.829)
All right, we're gonna see. Are we gonna, yeah, Kelly's gonna ride out.

Kelli (32:28.243)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:28.782)
So she's talking to Nick and then Wale comes over and says to Ashley, can I walk you to your room? Which I thought, well, yeah. Right, I was like, okay, that's smooth. So he walks her to her room and she's expecting a kiss, which I don't blame her. And.

Kelli (32:40.125)
Yeah, she says she's gonna go to bed and he's like, and he swoops in.

Mm-hmm.

Lori (32:52.255)
Me chickens out. Me chickens out.

Kelli (32:53.468)
I was too.

Wendy (32:55.508)
He's like, he chickens out, she walks in her room, she's like, what is going on? And he walks down the hall like, what have I done? But he does come back and knock on the door and give her the kiss. yeah, but he almost lost it there. He almost lost it. He really did.

Kelli (33:05.735)
Nice save. Nice save, Ballet.

Kelli (33:11.731)
He did. If he didn't go back, that probably would have sealed the deal for him. And then who you got, because you want to have kids, and the rest of them have aged out. So good thing he went back for that kiss. She's his only hope of staying on this show.

Wendy (33:16.759)
Yes.

Right. Yes. Yes.

Lori (33:22.645)
Right, right.

Wendy (33:28.416)
Yes.

Lori (33:28.501)
Yeah. That's why I think there could have been like a bigger array of men, you know, because for certain people, there felt like only certain options. You know what I mean?

Wendy (33:32.894)
More. Yes, more people.

Kelli (33:34.171)
he's the only, Ashley's the only one. Yeah.

Wendy (33:39.075)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:41.639)
Yeah. Yes.

Wendy (33:43.17)
Yeah. Yeah. Because even when Giselle, I think it was Wale that she talked to and she's like, do you want to have kids? And he's like, yeah. She's like, well, I don't have a uterus, so we're done here. Did either of you watch Watch What Happens Live?

Kelli (33:52.797)
Yeah, you can go talk to Ashley and that's it. And you better make it worth it.

Lori (33:53.141)
There you go.

Right, that's it, that's all there is. Right, that's all there is.

Kelli (34:00.809)
Do good. Exactly. Bring your A-game, pal.

Lori (34:08.22)
No.

Wendy (34:08.82)
Afterwards, afterwards, Portia and Giselle were on Watch What Happens Live. Okay. So it was a good one. It was a good one. They were talking about, and Andy brought it up, about Shannon when she had said this on Love Hotel, and I didn't bring it up because I was gonna bring it up here. When she was listening to their stories and about Earl and the love of his life, and Shannon admits that she's never.

Kelli (34:12.573)
I didn't watch it. I didn't.

Lori (34:38.079)
Really been in love. Been in love, right?

Wendy (34:38.126)
She doesn't think she's ever been in love. And she was married. So sad. I like, it was real. Like that was real. She was really saying that. she doesn't think she's ever been in love. So they were talking about that and she's got three kids with him and her kids just saw that. So there's that. Whatever. I mean, they lived it.

Kelli (34:40.211)
Yeah, that was sad. Yeah, that was sad.

Kelli (34:50.173)
Yeah. I know. And she's got three kids with him, David Bedor.

Lori (34:50.549)
Aww.

Lori (34:59.248)
Yeah, man.

Kelli (35:00.285)
Yeah, well, I mean, listen, it's not the worst thing in the world to never be in love with somebody who treated you like that and cheated on you. I don't believe that was the first time you cheated on her, yeah.

Wendy (35:08.298)
No, I agree. No, I totally agree. So then Andy asks, what are the reactions to Mia moving to Atlanta? And Giselle said to Porsche, good, she's yours now. And Porsche said, well, I like her. That's okay with me. She's okay with that. Yes, I do not, but I don't either. think, you know, that was just, she would like to be on Atlanta.

Kelli (35:25.929)
Really? Do you really think they're gonna put Mia on Atlanta? I don't think they are either.

I think she's, you know, trying exactly. I don't think.

Wendy (35:38.294)
I think she would like to be on Atlanta. I don't think they'll put her on Atlanta. Although, you know, she might fit in. I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (35:41.662)
Me neither.

Kelli (35:46.505)
She might fit in, because we got some fibers on Atlanta. So she would fit in, actually.

Wendy (35:49.731)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:53.538)
Then Andy asked Porsche how things were going with her and Angela after her saying that she wanted to F her husband. And Porsche's response is like, I don't know anything. Like Hennessy. Like she was, she's like, that's what she's blaming that she was drunk from Hennessy. I don't know anything. I was like, come on.

Kelli (36:06.836)
Right.

Kelli (36:13.607)
Yeah, just acknowledge your wrongdoing for once, Portia.

Wendy (36:15.665)
Wendy (36:19.01)
Yeah. Then Andy asked, what do

Lori (36:21.749)
That's clearly not a housewife theme though, acknowledging your wrongdoing. Yeah, I don't know where you think you are. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (36:25.169)
No, no acknowledgement, no accountability, yeah. Zero fucks given.

Wendy (36:25.326)
No, no.

Wendy (36:34.516)
Andy asked her what she thought of Angela riding so hard for Drew and Porsche doesn't think it's real. She doesn't think that Angela riding so hard for Drew is real. She's not sure why but something about it. And remember we were saying that we feel like that.

Kelli (36:47.827)
I told you she said she was set and drew up. She set drew up. I don't know why she was saying that, but that's what she was saying.

Wendy (36:52.193)
Yeah, I don't

But we felt like something was off too. I mean, we appreciated her being loyal and a good friend to Drew, but it just doesn't make sense. No, I think that they were because they were both from Chicago. You don't know? I don't know. I mean, Atlanta's not that big. I don't know. She asked if she, Andy asked, are you surprised that Drew tried to downplay her closeness with Dennis?

Kelli (36:57.491)
Yeah.

But they... But I don't think they were friends before the show!

Yeah, but I don't think that they knew each other in Chicago.

I know. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

Wendy (37:24.942)
and what she had Dennis in her phone as, what did she have him in, Boo Bro or Bro Dennis? And Poirot's like, no, like he is a bro. Like I, you know, I would call him Bro Dennis. And she said, in retrospect, I think that they tried to come up with the whole thing for her storyline for the music. She doesn't really think that it's real. She doesn't think that there's anything going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then, this is funny, then Andy asked,

Kelli (37:29.545)
Bro Dennis, Bro Dennis.

Kelli (37:46.621)
I think she's right, I agree with Portia.

Wendy (37:54.318)
like Giselle, who do you think had the hardest time connecting with the men on Love Hotel? And Giselle said, probably me. And Portia's like, you over Sutton? And Andy's like, Sutton wasn't on. She's like, well, who's that other lady? Andy's like, that was Shannon. She's the other white girl there. Funny. And Andy's like, you know, we all look alike. And I was like, my gosh.

Kelli (38:15.913)
That's so funny.

Kelli (38:21.631)
That's hysterical.

Wendy (38:23.742)
I was like, my God. Then a fan asked, Porsche when the last time she talked to Kim Zolciak was. And she said that she ran into her in Houston and cause they, they're both going through divorces, right? And they asked her if, you know, she'd given her any advice or anything. And she said, no, we're just going to push through these divorces and eat good. Andy said, you said we're going to push through these divorces and eat good.

Again, like she doesn't answer, she doesn't answer the questions.

Kelli (38:57.051)
No, it's like everything's a joke. She just makes a joke of everything.

Wendy (39:00.768)
It is a joke. Then a fan asked Giselle if she's been in touch with Karen since her sentencing and if Karen and Wendy have spoke, said, Karen and Wendy have not spoke and probably will never speak again. And Giselle said that she has talked to someone who's very close with Karen and she's been checking in on her and making sure she's doing okay and they love her there.

She said, Giselle said, you know she's running that thing. Meaning the jail.

Kelli (39:34.835)
Well, I don't doubt it.

Wendy (39:36.502)
I don't doubt it either. Giselle said, feel really, you know, feel good that she's safe there. Andy asked, no, she's in county jail. She's not in a white collar. She's in county jail. She is in real prison. She is not in some federal white collar crime camp. She is in county. It was a criminal offense. She is in county jail.

Kelli (39:43.263)
I mean, she's in a white collar thing, right? Like a...

She's in county. She is in county. I forgot about that.

Kelli (39:54.995)
That's right, right. Because it was a DUI. wasn't.

Lori (40:02.472)
Mmm.

Wendy (40:02.976)
And if you've ever been to our county jail, I can't imagine what their county jail is like because I've heard their county jail is not to be played with. So Andy asked if she's spoken to Ray and how he's doing. She said he's still adjusting. Also asked if she's spoken to TJ since the reunion. And she said no, but she's got a good friend who's spoken to TJ and he was being paid.

Kelli (40:11.165)
Right. Right.

Wendy (40:31.532)
And Portia said, then where are the receipts? She goes, he can't put them out until he actually gets paid. I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense.

Kelli (40:39.337)
That doesn't make sense, then he wasn't paid.

Wendy (40:41.428)
Right. I agree. I agree. So then if you were asked, Giselle, if she resolved the issue with her dad's will yet, because that's one of the things we were wondering about, her response was in June, coming up in this June, she'll be in court. So she should get some resolution on that.

Kelli (40:49.692)
that's a good question, yeah.

Kelli (40:58.035)
I'm saying lots of prayers that she gets the right resolution for that.

Wendy (41:00.33)
Me too. And then they asked if Portia is still in the marital home and she is and she's going to court soon and may be divorced within the next week or so, she said. Andy asked if Simon was still in ICE custody and she said she doesn't know she's got no communication with him. She doesn't know. Yeah, she has no idea. And then they asked Giselle who she thought would be the next people

Kelli (41:20.861)
No contact.

Wendy (41:29.986)
housewives to go on love hotel and she said Garcelle was number five Sutton was number four Erica was number three Heather gay was number two and Portia was number one I think that those five would be good

Kelli (41:32.543)
I'm sure she's at Porsche.

Lori (41:39.675)
that would be nice. There you go.

Kelli (41:48.499)
Yeah.

I think those five would be great. I would watch that. I'm not a huge Heather Gay fan, but I'd like to see her on a dating show. And I don't know if that's like a mean thing. I don't know if I want to see her on a dating show for a positive. Yeah, I don't, I'm not sure why, cause I don't really like her. I'm not a big fan, but I do want to see her on a dating show. So I don't know if that's nice or not nice.

Wendy (41:53.642)
I would I would.

Lori (42:01.333)
Like I want to see her in a mean way

Lori (42:15.189)
She would, cause she's very, she's very witty. So that I think that's why it would be entertaining. We'd have to say.

Wendy (42:22.403)
Yeah.

Kelli (42:22.599)
I feel like she'd be very awkward with men though. That's what I mean. So I feel like it's kind of mean for me to say that because it's like, that's what I want to see. Whatever.

Wendy (42:25.794)
Well, she is awkward.

Wendy (42:33.812)
Well, I mean, Shannon is awkward with men. I mean, you know, like...

Lori (42:34.431)
Well, we'll have to see. Right. She's awkward. She is awkward. Yeah.

Kelli (42:37.695)
Yeah, she is.

Wendy (42:41.518)
So I think that those are some really great choices. I think Luanne hosting it would be fabulous. I think, what else do I think? I think.

Kelli (42:44.295)
I think those are great choices.

Lori (42:48.671)
fabulous.

Kelli (42:54.249)
Gisele can't say if she made a connection or not, right?

Wendy (42:57.066)
No, they couldn't say like they couldn't say anything. No.

Lori (42:59.411)
Well, this is a thing though. saw a thing, a clip of Luan who said that I think she said three of them did, three people did make a connection and are still involved with the connection.

Kelli (43:17.501)
And I bet you Luan's not one of them, so it must be the other three.

Lori (43:21.661)
I don't remember what her answer was.

Wendy (43:22.892)
That's interesting because on Heather McDonald, Luanne said that, you know, she couldn't say anything.

Lori (43:28.885)
I saw some clip of her on somewhere talking to somebody that she said that, you know, that hotel is 1400 a night.

Kelli (43:40.041)
Where is that in Mexico?

Lori (43:41.575)
Yeah, Calais St. Lucas. Yeah.

Kelli (43:43.551)
Cabo San Lucas. I just thought that they all looked stunning. Like when they all walked in, like they just.

Wendy (43:44.973)
Yeah.

Wendy (43:51.342)
I did too. I did too.

Kelli (43:52.287)
I'm glad Bravo's doing this because I really do think that Real Housewives is played out and I think that people are getting tired of it. So I think that this is the type of thing they have to do.

Lori (43:59.443)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well...

Right, well the good thing about this type of show is so far, no one is shown in a horrible light. No one is shown in their female to female relationships to just be like rabid dogs. So that's the nice thing about it.

Kelli (44:15.579)
Right.

Kelli (44:24.999)
Right, and Shannon can't, she can feel a certain way, of course she has the right, but she can't get mad at Giselle for talking to the gentleman she was just talking to, because they're basically on a dating show.

Lori (44:37.146)
Right. Absolutely.

Wendy (44:37.334)
Right, no, and I don't think she was mad at her. just, she felt a certain way about it. And that's one of the things Luanne said is like, they're really each other's wing women. you know, like that's what they're doing when they're not on dates. Some of their dates are group dates, but when they're not on dates, they're like trying to get to know these men for the other women too, to find out if they're right for them. Because, you know, Ashley was talking to Jay and Giselle immediately said, Wale is perfect for Ashley. And you know, like they're looking out for each other, trying to find

Kelli (44:39.545)
Right. Exactly.

Kelli (45:03.86)
Yes.

Lori (45:03.925)
Thank

Wendy (45:07.458)
you know, a good match, you know, and trying to get Shannon to just, you know, go experience life, right? So yeah.

Lori (45:14.173)
Right, well that's what I mean, it's showing relationships in a positive way, which I think is something that needs to be shown, especially in regards to housewives.

Kelli (45:14.174)
Right.

Wendy (45:18.072)
They're not fighting with each other. Right. Right.

Kelli (45:19.569)
Nice friendships, yeah.

Kelli (45:29.895)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (45:30.54)
I totally agree. I totally agree. And I like this. And it's fun for the summer. it's not, you know, I don't know. Well, it's not really the summer yet. I don't even know how many episodes we're gonna get, to be honest with you. I don't know how long, how long can this possibly last? There's only eight guys and there's four women.

Lori (45:32.629)
So that's what made it enjoyable.

Kelli (45:35.198)
Yeah.

Lori (45:38.069)
.

Kelli (45:42.622)
I know.

Kelli (45:47.507)
Yeah, I wonder if they're gonna like start eliminating guys or are they or do they stay on until the end until they pick?

Lori (45:47.805)
I think they are there. Yeah.

I'm not sure. I know they're there for a couple of weeks though. I think they were there for three weeks. Yeah, that's, that's what, cause I, I saw it somewhere. No, that I think it was, I think it was Luanne who said that she was saying that they contact her and said, you know, we want to bring you to a tropical location with all these men and you would be there for three weeks. I, I'm pretty sure I remember hearing that somewhere. So.

Wendy (45:54.39)
I don't know, we're gonna have to wait and find out. No way, there's no way, how could they be there for three weeks?

Kelli (46:02.675)
Maybe two.

Wendy (46:22.72)
Okay. Because weren't the ultimate girls trips, weren't they only a week or 10 days? Yeah. Yeah, I can't imagine. Yeah, I mean.

Lori (46:24.648)
Alright.

Kelli (46:27.305)
thought one week, maybe 10 days.

Lori (46:27.933)
Right. Yeah. But I, I'll look in, I'll look into it further, but I'm pretty sure I heard somebody say three weeks that I heard that that timeframe somewhere. So I'm looking forward to it. not, know, I'm not a big housewife fan, so, but it does seem like it's to be, it's fun.

Kelli (46:43.879)
No, yeah, I like it. I like it so far.

Wendy (46:45.856)
I like it. I like it too. I like it too. I just wish that there was more men. More to choose from.

Lori (46:49.907)
Yes, most definitely.

Kelli (46:50.483)
Yeah, yeah. Well, we'll see next season could be different.

Lori (46:54.229)
So we'll see. Yeah.

Wendy (46:55.694)
Yeah, hopefully we get it next season. I really wanted another season of Crappy Lake. I'm very disappointed. I wanted them to go someplace else or I wanted the Crappy Lake people to go to New York and them to try and make it in. There's so many things that he could have done with that. It really was.

Lori (47:00.836)
that was so much fun. That was so much fun.

Kelli (47:08.265)
Yeah.

Lori (47:09.639)
Yeah, that was so much fun. It really was a lot of fun.

Kelli (47:14.323)
You know what I think happened? They did that and then all of a sudden they were talking about a simple life too.

Wendy (47:20.152)
Well, that's what happened is they redid the same production company that did Crappy Lake did Simple Life and then they did the second one for Nicole and Paris. Yeah, I watched it. I did watch it. I watched it. I don't think I watched the first one, but I did watch the second one when I found out.

Kelli (47:29.823)
they actually did film that. I don't... Yeah.

Lori (47:37.854)
you never watch? my daughter. My daughter loved that show.

Kelli (47:38.248)
I watched the first one. They were horrible.

Wendy (47:41.252)
no, the second one was good!

Kelli (47:43.625)
They were hor- those girls were horrible. They were so mean.

Wendy (47:45.86)
they were mean. No, so the second one, they're not mean. See, I didn't watch the first one. The second one, they're not mean because they're moms now. They were humble. It was so funny watching them ride their suitcases through the airport and like go to Walmart and singing their song. And it was, I thought it was funny. I mean.

Lori (47:50.269)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (48:03.133)
Yeah, but I that's what happened to Crappy Lake. They got the originals back.

Wendy (48:06.562)
Yeah but, well, I mean... Yeah but... We still-

Lori (48:08.628)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:11.023)
I'm, listen, I'm with you. I would have loved a season two of that. I would loved it. And it was the perfect place for Sonya.

Wendy (48:14.432)
Yeah, I would too.

Lori (48:14.741)
thought it was a lot of fun. It was really cute.

Wendy (48:20.942)
Yeah, and it doesn't even have to be go to the same place. Like go someplace else. Like let's pick all these like little, you know, let's put all these other little cities, you know, or, you know, one horse towns on the map, right? Like let's, I don't know. What do I know? I'm just a housewife in my basement.

Lori (48:24.925)
somewhere else. Yeah.

Lori (48:29.523)
On the map, yeah.

Kelli (48:30.193)
Yeah, on the map. Yep. Yep.

Lori (48:36.937)
What do any of us know? That's it. What do we know? It's like shit. Yeah, that's it. There's nobody else to listen.

Kelli (48:38.015)
Thanks.

Wendy (48:40.406)
I don't know.

Kelli (48:41.587)
We're just here talking to each other. What do we know? Certainly not the people we live with.

Wendy (48:47.884)
That's for sure. Certainly not our husbands.

Lori (48:50.557)
Nope. Nope. Nope. Mine are all sleeping.

Wendy (48:55.886)
I didn't tell you this. William said to me a couple of weeks ago, I can't wait until I can buy you out of this podcast. I said, what are you talking about? He goes, when I make enough money, I'm going to buy you out of the podcast. I said, you're not buying me out of the podcast. I said, how are going to buy me out? It was, if I paid off your house? He was like, okay, you're buying her out of the podcast then. I said, you're not buying me out the podcast.

Kelli (49:17.875)
He's gotta buy all of us out. He's gotta pay off all of our houses. There's three partners here. He's gotta buy us all out.

Lori (49:20.597)
Yeah. Yes. Tell him, keep that in mind when he's selling his Legos. Keep it in mind. Keep it in mind. Yeah.

Wendy (49:26.446)
I was like, what do you care if I do the podcast? I just, it's just, it's cringy. It's just cringy. I can't like, if I scroll and I see you and it pops up, it's just so cringy. Like why, like nobody wants to listen to you. I was like, obviously. It's so funny. He wants to buy me out of the podcast. I'll tell him that. Okay.

Kelli (49:42.559)
Right, so don't listen.

Kelli (49:48.467)
We'll tell him he's got to buy all three of us. So tell him to save his pennies.

Lori (49:50.175)
Yeah. Yeah. Tom. Yeah.

Lori (49:56.009)
Alright, so we'll watch the next episode and then we'll see what's going on. We'll recap it.

Wendy (49:56.366)
you

Wendy (50:00.578)
We'll recap it. Yeah. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews, subscribe and tell your friends. Bye.

Lori (50:09.535)
Yep. Bye.

Kelli (50:09.545)
Bye.