Baby Bliss to Total Mess?! The Valley S3 E1 Breakdown

Wendy (00:01.166)
Hi, welcome to We Why Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.629)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.744)
We are talking about the valley, season three, episode one. You can't sip with us. All right, it's okay. It's all right.

Kelli (00:13.816)
I like it. I like it because it's clearly a dig at Janet, so I'm here for it.

Wendy (00:18.232)
All right.

Yes, it definitely is a diggage on it. We start out with watching the Jack sign come down off of his bar, restaurant. And then at Brittany's house, we see the sign that says Brittany and Cruz. And they seem happy. Brittany and Cruz seem happy, but they're still not divorced yet.

Zach is still in West Holly. Yes, I think I don't I'm a hunch I think that they've are now officially divorced at this point but I think when they were filming they were not but I'm not even sure about that to be honest with you. I haven't heard anything about him in a long time have you?

Kelli (00:44.152)
because Jax hasn't signed the divorce paperwork.

Kelli (01:00.824)
Not at all. I was thinking that as I was watching this, was like, okay, so we're not going to see him, by the way, didn't miss him at all.

Wendy (01:02.634)
No. Yeah.

Wendy (01:09.952)
No, not at all.

Kelli (01:12.066)
We're not gonna see him, and then I thought, gosh, we haven't even heard about him. I hope he's okay. Listen, I hope he's in treatment. But I feel like if he were, we would know about it. Unless he's doing it the right way and for all the right reasons, yep, then we wouldn't hear about it. hopefully that's what's going on.

Wendy (01:21.27)
Yeah, I do too. I do too.

Wendy (01:26.606)
Unless he's taking seriously. Yeah.

Wendy (01:34.83)
Zach is still living in West Hollywood. He's not ready to make the move to the Valley. I didn't realize he didn't live in the Valley, to be honest with you.

Kelli (01:42.901)
I didn't either.

Wendy (01:45.166)
We find out his roommate is moving out and Benji's gonna kind of be moving in. But I guess he's still got like some citizenship issues or visa issues.

Kelli (01:55.928)
And he's still married, right?

Wendy (01:58.67)
Yeah, but I think he's, I don't know if he's still married or the fact that he's still, he's a Canadian citizen. He's not, I don't know what the situation is, to be honest with you. It has something to do with his visa.

Kelli (02:10.295)
Night.

Wendy (02:10.68)
Jasmine and Melissa are still living together in the valley.

They are talking about their wedding. Mm-hmm. It's a black tie event with no kids. They made that perfectly clear. Listen, I think a wedding with no kids is fine. I think it's totally fine. I think if you have a problem with that, well, then don't go.

Kelli (02:17.826)
talking about getting married. Yep.

Kelli (02:29.858)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:34.89)
Right. Everybody can get a, typically everybody can get a babysitter.

Wendy (02:36.152)
Right?

Wendy (02:39.99)
Right. Jasmine is.

Kelli (02:41.292)
I mean, never want, no offense, but I never wanted my kids at a wedding.

Wendy (02:45.504)
No, I wouldn't either. It's a pain in the ass.

Kelli (02:47.51)
No, like I, yeah, exactly.

Wendy (02:50.882)
Yeah. Jasmine is saying how she's a low maintenance bride yet, and she's laid back, but yet she gives this whole list of things, which is anything but laid back and low maintenance. Right?

Kelli (03:01.944)
Even the producers like, but you're laid back, right?

Wendy (03:06.52)
and

Kelli (03:09.42)
Yeah, no, she did it sound laid back when she was talking about it.

Wendy (03:13.0)
No, I don't think she is laid back. I don't know who she's trying to fool. Maybe herself. Michelle has her own place now and she's with Isabella. She's completely single now. We find out a little bit about that split too. So listen, I kind of feel bad for Michelle because, actually I feel bad for Isabella because Isabella cried. I mean,

Kelli (03:18.519)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:38.582)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (03:41.944)
She had to move out, and she cried. And I think Michelle learned her lesson.

Kelli (03:43.638)
Yeah.

I

Do you think it's a situation where he, think he, like Michelle, was into Michelle, and then once he was on the show, maybe started getting some DMs and started getting some attention, and maybe was like, all right, let me see where this goes.

Wendy (04:09.91)
I think I saw it on the after show. Luke talked to him or Danny talked to him. And basically his side of the story was that, you know, he was into Michelle. I he's the one who asked Michelle to move in, but I guess after she was living there for a while, he just felt like she wasn't the one. And he didn't want to continue to do this if she wasn't the one.

So he broke up with her. He did go and move in with his parents until she found a place and she could move out with Isabella. So he was very respectful of Isabella and the whole situation. And Jesse said, it was on the entry, Jesse said that they talked to the therapist because Isabella was so upset and the therapist said it was okay if Isabella still contacted him. And Aaron does still respond to her.

Kelli (04:50.028)
Wow, yeah, that's interesting.

Kelli (05:04.161)
Aaron.

Wendy (05:08.448)
And they're hoping that it will just kind of wean out. he just made... Listen, I kind of respect that. I really do.

Kelli (05:18.464)
I do too, I'm glad to hear that.

Wendy (05:21.517)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:22.412)
I personally like Michelle and I do think that the ultimate downfall of Michelle and Jesse's marriage probably had more to do with Jesse than Michelle. I don't, Michelle I think can also have some tendencies where she might not be the easiest to get along with. I mean, well, whatever, we'll get into it.

Wendy (05:33.398)
I agree.

Wendy (05:44.982)
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of there with you. And as of this point, they're still not divorced yet. Jessie and Michelle are still not divorced. And they split Isabella every other weekend. So they've got a good co-parenting situation, and they're getting along much better.

Kelli (05:48.429)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:00.69)
Nia and Danny are living in Santa Clarita and baby Adelaide is their number four. It took them an hour to get to their LA hospital and almost gave birth in the car. Oops.

Kelli (06:15.032)
You might have to find a new hospital. I guess if her OB delivers out of that hospital, that's where she had to go.

Wendy (06:23.671)
Right, right.

Kelli (06:24.952)
I'm sure she had a scheduled situation.

Wendy (06:29.28)
Yeah. So then we see Kristen and Luke are in their North Hollywood house now. We don't know if they're renting it or if they own it, but Kristen's baby, Kaya, is there and she's got blonde hair and blue eyes and she's three months old. Same as Adelaide, they're both three months old. Right. Exactly. Looks just like Luke, right?

Kelli (06:45.464)
No question whose father is, right?

Kelli (06:53.154)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:54.93)
But Lucas is having a problem that the baby is three months old and Kristen doesn't want to have sex. He's really missing that. And listen.

Kelli (07:05.926)
Yeah, thanks for you, Luke.

Wendy (07:09.206)
This, I'm glad that they're talking about it though, to be honest with you. Because this is a real situation. This is something that really happens. know, after you've had a baby, you don't feel great about yourself. The last thing you wanna do, you're sleep deprived. I'm sorry, like they need to get over it, these men. They need to get over it. They do.

Kelli (07:11.948)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:16.824)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:29.334)
Yeah, that baby's not sleeping through the night yet. So I'm sorry. If you have someone who's willing to, you know, be intimate with you before the baby's sleeping through the night, God bless both of you. But if not, it's totally okay. It's totally okay. Because obviously you feel like shit about your body. You feel horrible about your body.

Wendy (07:33.228)
No.

Wendy (07:48.91)
Right, I agree, I totally agree.

Wendy (07:55.843)
Yes!

And there's so much going on.

Kelli (07:58.989)
I mean, when you're pregnant, like I totally embraced my pregnant body. Like I was like, this is fantastic, you know? But afterwards you feel horrible. Yeah.

Wendy (08:06.254)
Yeah, but there's so much going on. Hormonally, there's so much going on. mean, just the whole situation of your body, it's just so much. And like, they have no idea. They have no idea. You don't know. No. No.

Kelli (08:17.056)
And your first baby, like, don't know what the fuck you're doing. You don't know what you're doing. And all of a sudden you're responsible for this person, human being. Three months is nothing. When they say the days are long, the years are short, believe it. Believe it. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (08:32.704)
No. No it's not.

Wendy (08:38.296)
It's true. It's true. So Adelaide and Kaia are only six days apart. So they're having a joint sip and see. I had never heard of a sip and see until Phaedra on Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Kelli (08:51.83)
Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, she's the only one I, yeah.

Wendy (08:54.728)
And when I heard about the sip and see, I was like, this is the most fabulous thing I've ever heard of. And I'm glad that we're continuing to do it. I love it. I love a sip and see. Love it.

Kelli (08:59.254)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Right. Especially if you're not baptizing the baby, because typically the baptism, for us, is the first time a lot of the family would meet the baby.

Wendy (09:06.702)
Wendy (09:14.838)
Yeah, and even if you are baptizing, you don't necessarily want all the friends there, right?

Kelli (09:20.138)
Right, that's right. Yeah.

Wendy (09:23.342)
So then we see Lala and Janet are shopping for gifts. Janet's not invited to the Sip and See, but she's shopping with Lala. Janet is saying that Nia has blocked her on everything and her and Kristin don't get along. Yep. She's in therapy, which I was happy to hear that Janet is in therapy, because I think that's important.

Kelli (09:47.798)
I think it's important, especially, I'm hoping that the therapist told her to not use the verbiage sexual assault when it's not applicable.

Wendy (09:58.328)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:59.479)
So let's hope that the therapist addressed that with chat.

Wendy (10:02.978)
Yes. We find out that Kristin and Janet last saw each other at Brittany's pool party and that did not go well because Kristin didn't know Janet was coming. you know, Brittany is like this Kentucky muffin, but she doesn't really stand up to anybody. She's very wishy washy.

Wendy (10:26.104)
Then we see Brittany.

Kelli (10:26.328)
I think Brittany just wants, listen, I think Brittany just is in a good place with herself right now, finally, after being in a tumultuous relationship for so long. She's probably like, I finally feel at peace, I don't, you know, like the tur, I don't want to get into the turmoil. I don't think she's picking one side over the other.

Wendy (10:34.391)
Yes.

Wendy (10:41.176)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (10:46.401)
I that.

No, she's not, she's not. And I don't think she should have to. Like let them figure it out. That's their problem. That's their problem. So Brittany FaceTimes with Brandon. She had just spent five days with him in Cabo and she met him in Kentucky when she was 22. And it's been 13 years since, I did not know this. So I remember when this came out, when she was in Cabo and the pictures came out. And the funny thing is the last time I saw Brittany, I think it was on Watch What Happens Live.

Kelli (10:52.652)
Right, right, right.

Wendy (11:18.702)
or maybe it was a podcast I heard her on, but she had completely forgotten about Brandon, that he even existed, that she even dated him. I was like, so this does not last long. No, no, doesn't last long. It doesn't last long.

Kelli (11:28.281)
so they're not together anymore.

That's kind of funny.

Wendy (11:36.416)
I thought so too, especially considering that she had known him, you know, since she was 22 and she hadn't seen, like it wasn't some rando that she met.

Kelli (11:46.861)
Right. You know, it's funny, all I kept thinking about when they were showing him was how Jack said, I think it was on the last reunion, like her type is like basketball player, like, right? And I'm looking at this guy, I'm like, he kind of fits the profile, right?

Wendy (11:47.598)
I was surprised.

Wendy (11:59.682)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (12:06.71)
Yeah, so he lives in California now, but he's three hours away, which is, know, and it turned out to like, I remember when the pictures came out, like his ex-girlfriend was like saying that Brittany, like she was like causing drama that wasn't true. Like it just wasn't true, whatever.

Kelli (12:24.514)
The ex-girlfriend was not Britney.

Wendy (12:27.136)
Yeah, the ex-girlfriend was, yeah. Zach meets up with Tom Schwartz and they talk about, you know, when they closed the bar in the last few years, like things kind of fell apart. listen, I love Tom Schwartz. I do, I just love him. I just, don't know what it is. I am too. And him and Zach have been friends.

Kelli (12:40.94)
Me too. I'm glad he's on this.

I mean, even Zach said Schwartz is one of the kindest, gentlest, nicest people he's ever met. Zach said that.

Wendy (12:52.844)
Yeah, yeah. He met him, I guess, the day he moved to LA. So, like, he's known him for a long time.

They're talking about Brittany, how they're worried about her because she is vulnerable, which she is.

Kelli (13:07.852)
And they both think she's moving too fast with this guy, which is interesting.

Wendy (13:15.264)
Zach said him and Benji are still trying to figure out the visa thing. They have an open relationship. I was very surprised to hear that, to be honest with you. Listen, I'm glad he admitted it. I'm glad he admitted it. I'm not surprised that it was happening. I am surprised that he admitted it.

Kelli (13:24.268)
Very surprised. Yeah.

Kelli (13:32.854)
Yeah. Yeah, I like it. I like the honesty.

Wendy (13:34.922)
And but Zach, I do too. Zach said that love and sex are two different things. And I honestly feel like in the gay community that this is very common. I think it's very common. So be honest with it. Just talk about it, right? Don't try and hide it. People are going to find out.

Kelli (13:53.891)
Yeah, that's all, listen, when we watch these shows, that's all we want. Yeah, we like drama, but if you're gonna be on the show, we wanna really know what's going on in your life.

Wendy (14:05.1)
Yes, yes.

Then we see Nia meets up with Kristen and their newborns. It's so funny too, because this is Nia's fourth child. She is an old pro at this time and she's so young. She's still so young, but you can see the difference in her demeanor walking in and Kristen's demeanor with the three month old. Kristen said, I'm like three bucks from home, I might as well be in a foreign country. She is lost, right?

Kelli (14:37.794)
Well, she said earlier in the episode that she's only left the house one time since she's had the baby. That's very important for new moms. It's very hard because especially if you're the type of person that always wants to be prepared, which I am. So listen, pack what you have to pack. Pack the whole fucking room up if you have to. Shove it in a stroller and walk down the street. Like get.

Wendy (14:44.984)
Right.

Wendy (14:56.492)
Yes, right.

Kelli (15:05.72)
out of the house. It is very important. Because the more you do it, the better it will feel, the more comfortable it will feel, the easier it will get. Yeah.

Wendy (15:05.878)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:11.222)
easier it gets.

Wendy (15:16.206)
Yeah, I so remember early on, so Will and Andrew were 22 months apart. And when I had Will, I thought, oh my gosh, it's like going out, it's a big production, you gotta do the thing, you gotta get the car seat in, you do it, you pack up all this stuff. But I did it, I was like, yeah, no big deal. Then when there was two, I was like, oh no. I'm like,

Kelli (15:40.737)
I can't, yeah.

Wendy (15:45.378)
I gotta hold this one's hand, this one's two, this is a newborn, I gotta hold this here, I got double the amount of clothes, I got two in diapers, like what am I doing? When I see Nia and Dani, like I've seen them in the airport, I've seen them travel, I watch them, they are so good together, because four under five is insane, it's insane! And when you see her, she's, yeah.

Kelli (15:52.664)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:06.808)
Insane. Insane. I never had two in diapers. Tess was potty trained by the time Joe was born.

Wendy (16:16.034)
Yeah, I had two and I think I had, I think I always had two in diapers until the last one and then I had one, but yeah, no, think, cause Andrew and Matt are only two and a half years apart. So yeah, think I two and I always had two in diapers, but I can't imagine what it is like for those and they make it look so effortless. They do.

Kelli (16:40.674)
Yeah, their videos are cute. They are a good team.

Wendy (16:43.246)
Yeah.

They are a good team, but I do see from some of the coming attractions that Nia's really struggling. And I feel bad for her. I do, because I feel like, no, exactly. She moved to Santa Clarita. That's what he wanted, because they got so much more for their money. even though it's whatever, it's 30 miles, it takes them an hour to get to their friends and family. And when you're an hour away, that's a lot when you need support and you have four children. It's a lot.

Kelli (16:55.074)
How could you not?

Kelli (17:16.8)
Yeah, you were just in California, like you and you were in Orange County and you said the traffic was horrendous.

Wendy (17:17.184)
It's a lot.

Wendy (17:23.254)
traffic was crazy. It was crazy. Like just to go.

Kelli (17:25.154)
Just I think most areas of California, that's how it's gonna be.

Wendy (17:30.806)
Yeah, I think so too. So I could, you know, I could definitely, I feel for, I feel for her. I feel for both of them.

Jesse goes over to Luke's house and his girlfriend from Orange County, Lacey, is going to be on the show this season, which I was very surprised. even like, she wanted nothing to do with it last season and all of a sudden she's on it. Wait, is she in the picture? No, she's not in the picture. No, she's not in the picture.

Kelli (18:00.077)
Yep. No, she's not gonna be in the picture. Well, yeah, I thought it was real interesting when they showed what really happened last year at the finale party.

Wendy (18:13.31)
I did too, because that's not what we were led to believe. That's not what we were led to believe.

Kelli (18:17.26)
Nope. So I believe Michelle, when she says there's a different side to Lacey that we're not gonna see, you know, we won't see because Lacey wants to put on this. I do believe Michelle.

Wendy (18:30.53)
because I Jesse's the same way. Jesse has an on-camera persona and an off-camera persona.

Kelli (18:33.174)
for sure.

Kelli (18:37.526)
Yeah, earlier in the episode, he's like, you know, we're just, we're not divorced yet, you know, for certain reasons. Yeah, because you won't sign the papers. Like she's probably, Michelle's probably like, I'm giving up everything. No alimony, no nothing. and he still won't sign. Yeah, just to be a douche.

Wendy (18:45.558)
Right, Michelle has made it perfectly clear.

Wendy (18:51.33)
She is! Right, she doesn't want anything. Right. She walked away from the house, she doesn't want alimony, she doesn't want anything. She just wants to be divorced. She walked away from everything. Right. And he hasn't signed it. Yeah. I mean, Jesse says that his girlfriend has a daughter also, and Isabella and her daughter are close, which is nice. I hope for Isabella's sake that...

Kelli (19:01.984)
Yeah. She just wants to be rid of you and you're not letting her.

Wendy (19:20.418)
They stay together because, you know, poor Isabella, right?

Kelli (19:26.732)
Yeah, yeah. I do think that after what happened with Aaron, think Michelle will be very careful with who she introduces. Yeah, yeah. But Jesse, he's a loose cannon. He's a Jax 2.0.

Wendy (19:33.964)
Michelle definitely will be.

Yeah.

Wendy (19:42.508)
Yeah. But Luke is telling Jessie that like the first six weeks was the baby were really tough. Well, the first, yes, it is tough. It is totally tough.

Kelli (19:53.143)
Yeah. You got to give it like three months to get your, to get your footing. You know, when they start sleep, honestly, to me and listen, this could be because I really like to sleep, but to me it was like when the baby was sleeping through the night, which I was very blessed. Both of my kids did pretty early on. probably cause I was such an asshole in the middle of the night. They were like, forget it. You know what? We're just going to sleep and we'll see you at 6 a.m.

Wendy (19:58.36)
Right.

Wendy (20:16.62)
Hahaha!

Wendy (20:21.366)
You feed me later, it's fine.

Kelli (20:23.414)
That's right. Midnight to six, I'm cool. I'm good. But I think when the baby starts sleeping through the night, that's when you like, you feel like a normal person again.

Wendy (20:36.674)
Yeah, and Jesse says that he had Isabella when he was 40, he doesn't even relate to Luke. I think also because he wasn't there. I don't think he was present, right?

Kelli (20:47.864)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (20:53.07)
And back at the coffee shop, see Krista telling Nia that she really hates her body now and that Luke wants sex all the time, which is not good.

Kelli (21:08.32)
I mean, I had a C-section, but I feel like I didn't get cleared to even do that for eight weeks.

Wendy (21:14.488)
at least, no, I think it's probably, I think it's more for a C-section. I think it's more. Yeah. I think honestly, I don't remember because it was so long ago. I think it was at least eight weeks. I didn't have any C-sections, but I think it was at least eight weeks for even a vaginal birth. Like six weeks is nothing. Six weeks is nothing.

Kelli (21:16.503)
Right?

That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah.

Kelli (21:35.765)
So, like three months is 12 weeks. So get like six weeks, like get the F out of here.

Wendy (21:42.04)
Right.

Wendy (21:46.348)
Right, No, I agree. So then we see Michelle, Lala, Janet and Brittany all meet up and Brittany is telling them about the five days she spent in Cabo with Brandon. He's not her boyfriend. Michelle lets us know no one has ever broke up with her before. I believe that. I totally believe that.

Kelli (22:09.856)
Yeah, I do believe it.

Wendy (22:13.55)
The day of the Sip and See, I thought that place, did those, whoever that party planner was did such a nice job. The sparkling rose with the cotton candy on top, I was like, that's a nice little touch.

Kelli (22:21.325)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:25.004)
Yeah, that was cute. That was really cute.

Wendy (22:31.252)
Lala went up to Nia and said, tell me you're done. And she said, yeah, she's done. And Danny's like, no, I say four under four. What's one more? like, I think he had.

Kelli (22:42.37)
Danny, get out of here. Just get out of here. I thought Lala looked really cute. I thought Lala brought like a real, yeah, yeah, and Jasmine. Jasmine, like total Marilyn Monroe vibe.

Wendy (22:51.639)
I loved her outfit.

I did too.

Wendy (23:00.342)
Yes. No, I did think Lala looked really good. Listen, I like Lala. I know you never were a fan of hers. I wasn't a fan of hers when she was on Vanderpump. I didn't become a fan of hers until I started listening to her podcast and listening to more of like who she really is. And then that's when I...

Kelli (23:17.708)
I'm gonna give Lala credit where I think credit's deserved. When Lala said, the end of Vanderpump after scandal ball, and she said, I never met somebody who's been cheated on who thinks they're like Jesus Christ or whatever she said. And I could not have agreed with her more. You know that. Like I'm happy for Ariana for all the opportunities she got. And I think she deserved it. And I think she succeeded because she,

Wendy (23:34.102)
Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (23:44.28)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:46.445)
deserve those opportunities. But people get cheated on all the time. The response to that was unbelievable to me, which I think is why Kyle Cook's looking for his Ariana moment, but he's not gonna get it. Ciara's gonna get it. But I give credit where credit's. Yeah, she already had it before, but I like La La so far on this show.

Wendy (24:04.635)
Sierra's definitely, Sierra has it.

Wendy (24:16.014)
I like when Schwartz was talking to Michelle and he said to her, did you ever see Stella's got her groove back? He said, not that you're Stella, not that you didn't have your groove, but boy, you look gorgeous. I was like, he's so sweet. He's really sweet. He really is. He said that they're gonna get together. She's like, you know, like maybe we'll go on like the eat, love, pray journey like Julia Roberts.

Kelli (24:20.384)
you

you

Kelli (24:29.814)
He's good. He's very good, Schwarzie.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:44.502)
Yeah. Yeah.

By the way, Kristen looks amazing. I know she's like self-conscious about her body, but she was basically wearing like a backless dress and she looked amazing.

Wendy (24:48.568)
then Jessie shows up. I think she does too.

Wendy (24:57.548)
Yes, I think she does too. I do too.

Kelli (25:00.194)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:02.358)
And I was never a fan of Kristen's until the valley, be honest with you.

Kelli (25:06.621)
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep.

Wendy (25:08.312)
Right?

Wendy (25:12.536)
Jessie shows up with Lacey.

Wendy (25:17.771)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:18.69)
Michelle got jacked up over that because she didn't know she was going to be there.

Wendy (25:24.386)
they should have given her a heads up. I do. I do. And honestly,

Kelli (25:26.558)
I agree. mean, if anything, Kristen and Nia should have known she was coming because I'm sure Jesse responded to people.

Somebody should have given her a heads up that she was coming.

Wendy (25:41.474)
No, I totally agree.

Wendy (25:46.072)
So we see Lala is talking to Kristin and Luke and Lala is telling them that her mom was looking at Sosa and said, my God, Sosa looks so much like Luke. And she's like telling them as a joke. And then Kristin and Luke reveal that Luke donated sperm to the same sperm bank that Lala got Sosa's sperm from. Like, what are the chances of that?

Kelli (25:50.68)
you

Kelli (26:13.73)
That's wild and I really hope they did some kind of blood test to see it because she really does look like him.

Wendy (26:20.172)
Well, my God, they did this side by side and they do, but Lala did say, and Kristen said this someplace, it may have been on Watch What Happens Live, Lala got new sperm. His was old, like his was like old sperm. So it's not Luke, it's not Luke. But it was funny in his confessional when he's sitting there like going over the three profiles that she went over, he's like, actually it be all three. Like, my gosh, can you imagine?

Kelli (26:34.725)
okay. So it's not.

Kelli (26:47.608)
hahahaha

Wendy (26:49.902)
Yeah, I think it was on watch what happens live that Kristen said yeah, no, no, no Lala definitely got new sperm like his was old Which would make sense, right? Because it was when he was in college. Yeah Yeah

Kelli (26:58.346)
Okay, now that makes sense and I'm glad to hear it. I mean, what a, like what a twist that would have been. If Sosa and.

Wendy (27:07.84)
I mean only, and I, right, right.

Kelli (27:13.176)
Lala's like Kristen Sosa's stepmom?

Wendy (27:16.526)
Right?

when like two years ago they were not even speaking, right? Like they were like arch nemesis. And then Lacey just goes over to Michelle and she's like, hi. And Michelle's like, I didn't even know you were coming.

Kelli (27:20.472)
That's funny. Right.

Wendy (27:37.118)
And it was awkward. It was totally awkward.

Kelli (27:41.058)
Well, what's awkward is that she says to Michelle, seem happy and healthy. What does that mean?

Wendy (27:50.434)
Yeah, what does that mean?

Kelli (27:51.244)
What does the healthy thing mean?

I don't trust that coming from her, from Lacey. What is the healthy thing? Like what are you trying to insinuate?

Wendy (28:06.061)
Yeah.

Michelle says that her and Jessie are in a better place now than they were last summer. And Michelle asked Lacey if she was officially divorced and she said yes. And Michelle said, well, I don't know anything about you. I like that she said that.

Kelli (28:22.52)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (28:25.576)
Michelle says like, need this divorce to get settled. I need to be done. And Lacey's like, well, I'm team divorce. Like, don't think I'm stopping this. And then she said like, I've made it very easy for him. I'm walking away with nothing. I'm done. And I think that that's true.

Kelli (28:43.138)
Yeah, it's a control thing. He keeps control as long as he doesn't sign. Jax keeps control as long as he doesn't sign.

Wendy (28:46.551)
It's definitely a control thing.

Wendy (28:54.104)
Listen, I did not expect, I don't know. I don't know what I expected Lacey to look like, but I didn't expect her to look like that. I think she seems very young. Doesn't she look very young?

Kelli (29:03.98)
Yes, I agree. I didn't expect her to look like that either. I had the same thoughts. Only because I, for some reason, remember hearing Teddy and Tamara talk about her. They knew who she was because she lives in Orange County. She's extremely wealthy. Extremely wealthy. She wanted nothing to do with the show. This is what they said. So I had like, I had a much different picture.

Wendy (29:16.547)
Wendy (29:29.557)
Okay, okay.

Kelli (29:33.876)
of her than that.

Wendy (29:38.283)
interesting.

Kelli (29:39.8)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:43.8)
So Michelle goes over and tells Lala, like, I don't trust her. Like, I've seen her be super nice to people and then super rude to people. And she's like, I'm not going to fall for that bullshit, which I'm glad. I'm glad she's got her antennas up.

Wendy (30:03.714)
And I don't blame her. think, because Jessie even said, as soon as Lacey came into his life, she called up Michelle before they were even introduced and asked, like, what, like, what your boundaries are. What? My boundaries are you don't call me bitch. Like, what is that? Like, seriously? Like, these are my boundaries. Right. Right.

Kelli (30:17.036)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (30:24.968)
Exactly. I don't know you and there's no reason I need to know you. They're just now dating a year. Now they're dating a year. Now this is when you would be like, first of all, I would, I mean, my kids are older now, but if my kids were Isabella's age, I don't think I would bring anyone near them for at least six months. I would give it six months of dating. At least six months.

Wendy (30:50.198)
At least.

Kelli (30:53.974)
before introducing them to my child.

So if that goes well, then you, you I mean, you keep the other parent apprised of what's going on, but they don't necessarily need to meet them. But if after six months you're comfortable enough to introduce them to your child and the other parent is aware, then maybe give it some more time and then say like, this is going well. Like even Isabella's connecting with her. Do you want to meet her?

Wendy (31:18.764)
Yes! Right. Right.

Kelli (31:28.108)
But Jesse's chaotic is the word. He's dramatic. He was made for reality TV.

Wendy (31:36.77)
He's a narcissist. Jesse is a narcissist. Like you said, he is Jax 2.0. Actually, I'm gonna call him Jax 1.5 to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (31:38.424)
100 %

Yeah.

Kelli (31:46.658)
Ha ha ha ha!

For sure. For sure.

Wendy (31:52.044)
Right? Jesse's Jack's 1.5.

Kelli (31:55.179)
Yeah, it's a whole control thing with him. He's probably had women throwing themselves at him all his life. And Michelle is like, I'm good, I'm all set. And he can't handle it.

Wendy (31:59.756)
It is, it totally is.

Wendy (32:09.709)
Yeah.

I think that's it. think, listen, I wish the best for Michelle. I hope she finds someone who appreciates her for who she is and treats her like she should be treated.

Kelli (32:19.904)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (32:25.26)
So that's all I have. Do you have anything else for the valley?

Kelli (32:28.152)
No, other than, you know, they showed the scenes from last season finale. And Michelle was like literally yelling, F you, F you at Lacey. But listen, Lacey showed up and they showed Jesse saying to the producer, well, it's 10.30, we wrap at 10.30. And the producer's like, you know we weren't wrapped, we were not wrapped. And then somebody else is saying to Lacey, like, this is a place of business.

Wendy (32:34.508)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:56.0)
So she was clearly acting out of line. For someone to have to say to her, this is a business.

Wendy (33:02.912)
And she also said, I didn't sign a release. She also said that. like, I didn't sign a release. Well then leave. Leave. You don't need to be there.

Kelli (33:06.604)
Right. Right.

Kelli (33:11.542)
Right. So now she must have signed the release to be on this season. So now they can shoot that must grandfather them and to be able to show. Yeah.

Wendy (33:16.29)
That's why they could show it. Yep, that's why they got it in, 100%. Like these producers are not dumb. Lacey on the other hand, maybe not so smart.

Kelli (33:22.294)
Yeah. No.

Not so smart. You should have stuck to the no filming rule.

Wendy (33:31.768)
She really should have because like you said, she's that wealthy or family's that wealthy, she doesn't need this.

Kelli (33:37.697)
No, and that's what, I'm almost positive it was Teddy and Tamara's talking about it, and they know her. She's a very prominent figure in Orange County. And yeah, we're gonna have to do some, yeah, we'll do a deep dive. But she seems just as chaotic as Jessie.

Wendy (33:49.294)
We're gonna have to look this up. We're gonna have to find out who she is. Yeah.

All right. So, yeah, she definitely does. I think they're probably perfect for each other. So, last night, Sunday night, Atlanta aired also. We are not recapping Atlanta just yet, but I did watch Atlanta, because I couldn't wait. I just couldn't wait. I'm sorry. There's two new housewives on there, Pinky and, I can't think of her name, but.

I am going to like this season. Angela Oakley looks better than ever. I don't know what happened over the break, but Angela Oakley looks better than ever. Charles Oakley, she's still, Charles Oakley is still there front and center showing up to the parties. Charles Oakley is still Charles Oakley. So we will be recapping.

Kelli (34:34.454)
Okay.

Kelli (34:40.15)
Is she still with Charles?

Kelli (34:50.252)
Definitely gonna watch. I just feel like we have a lot of shows going on right now. Once one ends, we'll get caught up and we'll start recapping.

Wendy (34:54.838)
Yes.

Wendy (34:58.54)
Yes, that's what our plan is, because it's just too much. We are both overwhelmed. We both work full-time jobs and have children and husbands and lives. And yes, but I did watch it. And I suggest you watch it too when you get a chance, because it's good. I didn't want people to spoil it for me. That's why I watched it. I was like, I'm watching it. I'm not taking notes, but I'm watching it. So I did watch it, and it's good.

Kelli (35:03.382)
Yeah, full-time jobs, full-time jobs. Right.

Kelli (35:12.525)
I will.

Kelli (35:20.864)
Okay. All right. I'm going to watch it. Kelly's still on, right?

Wendy (35:26.168)
Kelly's on. Kelly's a little out there. Portia's got a new man for now, but we know that that's gonna change. yeah. Drew shows up to a party with her man on her phone, virtually. And it's the guy, that they called her out for at the reunion. And she's

Kelli (35:28.866)
Okay.

Kelli (35:32.362)
Okay.

Kelli (35:36.812)
Yeah, right, right.

Kelli (35:53.803)
Okay, and she denied.

Wendy (35:56.354)
that she denied and she still hasn't quite admitted it. She said they're friends, friends. I'm like, okay. And she's still not divorced. She is still not divorced. I think Ralph is still in the basement.

Kelli (36:13.452)
Somebody needs to let Ralph out of the basement.

Wendy (36:16.002)
I know, right? Ralph is still in the basement.

I

Kelli (36:24.94)
That's hysterical. But come on, Drew. Like, shitter get off the pot, as my Nana would say. Like, are you gonna be on the show or are you not gonna be on the show? Are you gonna show us what's going on in your life? Are you dating Black? If you are, then show them in person and not on a phone screen. Enough.

Wendy (36:43.842)
Yeah. and Shemeah and Porche are still not friends. They're still not friends. Yep. But Porche had a party at her house and she did invite Shemeah and Shemeah did show, but Shemeah's husband didn't show. He was stuck traveling. That's the story they're going with, but I don't know if it's true. Kay Michelle. Kay Michelle is the other new housewife. She's a country singer, supposedly. She's a country singer. Porche has known her for a long time.

Kelli (36:49.303)
Wow.

Kelli (37:03.128)
That's the story.

Kelli (37:10.698)
Okay, okay, I knew I heard the name.

Wendy (37:14.518)
You did? I never heard of her.

Kelli (37:16.522)
I've heard the name, Kay Michele, for sure.

Wendy (37:18.656)
Okay, okay. No, it's gonna be a good season. And Cynthia Bailey's there. love, love, Cynthia starts it off. I actually, when I first saw the opening scene, I thought it was Portia until she turned around and then it was Cynthia. It's good. You should watch it. You should watch it. You should watch it. All right. And stay tuned to the We Wine Whenever listeners. We will be recapping it. Just not yet.

Kelli (37:33.016)
Okay, I'll definitely watch it

Kelli (37:43.83)
Yeah, not yet. It's too much.

Wendy (37:47.502)
It's too much, we're tired.

Kelli (37:49.954)
Yeah, I'm exhausted.

Wendy (37:52.95)
Alright, until next time, thank, yeah we will. Thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (37:53.836)
We'll get through it.

Kelli (38:01.592)
Bye.